Am I the only one who feels like the Acend champs run was a fluke/wont happen again? In my eyes they have not been the most consistent team at all, I honestly do not think they can repeat the success they had again.
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Damn bruh I just wanted to have some good debate and conversation I didnt know this would trigger everyone.
titanwithpp [#2]I mean someone will obviously replace them as the next champion.
Yea but I meant success on the international/lan level. I feel like they might not even make it there.
YvngKurry [#4]Yea but I meant success on the international/lan level. I feel like they might not even make it there.
they have literally been more consistent than fnatic
FightWasTaken [#3]funnily enough they were the most consistent team in Europe with their masters 1 and other challengers titles seems weird how a lot of people say they are inconsistent
Idk I feel like liquid and gambit are a whole lot more consistent
asdfgh [#7]they have literally been more consistent than fnatic
I never said anything about fnatic?
YvngKurry [#11]I never said anything about fnatic?
who will make it to masters then?,liquid hasnt been anymore consistent too
asdfgh [#10]how??
YvngKurry [#14]
- Gambit has placed top 1-2 in both lans they have played
- In the EMEA scene, Liquid just seemed so dominant.
liquid were only dominant before champs
asdfgh [#12]who will make it to masters then?,liquid hasnt been anymore consistent too
In the EMEA scene yes they have
dexter000111 [#17]I agree
Acend are a great team don't get me wrong
But for some reason it doesn't even feel like they won Champions
If Gambit and Acend or Liquid and Acend played again, I'd still bet on Liquid and Gambit
I honestly agreee
YvngKurry [#14]
- Gambit has placed top 1-2 in both lans they have played
- In the EMEA scene, Liquid just seemed so dominant.
Consistency isn't just placing top though, Gambit failed to close out their maps in Champions. Its also about what you do to take the win. Despite being at NA's top last year (they won almost all qualifiers), SEN still managed to drop out of groups and by the end C9 took the top spot for NA despite C9 being less consistent than SEN.
kristof [#21]acend won masters 1
Yea they did however after that until masters 3 they had no success. Even in Masters 3 they did bad.
YvngKurry [#24]Yea they did however after that until masters 3 they had no success. Even in Masters 3 they did bad.
liquid had even less success
titanwithpp [#23]Consistency isn't just placing top though, Gambit failed to close out their maps in Champions. Its also about what you do to take the win. Despite being at NA's top last year (they won almost all qualifiers), SEN still managed to drop out of groups and by the end C9 took the top spot for NA despite C9 being less consistent than SEN.
I dont think SEN is consistent at all. They were at the beginning of the year, however they were given a free pass to all the LANs and did not take advantage of it. Thats what lead to their poor performance in the end of the year. On the other hand, I do not think c9 are consistent at all either. No success in the beginning of the year, however they did pick things up in the LCQ. I think they have potential though!
kristof [#25]liquid had even less success
Thats true, I just think that since I've seen Liquid play more Im biased
dexter000111 [#17]I agree
Acend are a great team don't get me wrong
But for some reason it doesn't even feel like they won Champions
If Gambit and Acend or Liquid and Acend played again, I'd still bet on Liquid and Gambit
agree
YvngKurry [#28]Thats true, I just think that since I've seen Liquid play more Im biased
did u see liquid getting owned by acend too?
kristof [#31]did u see liquid getting owned by acend too?
I did. Liquid honestly got destroyed and acend played amazingly that day.
YvngKurry [#26]I dont think SEN is consistent at all. They were at the beginning of the year, however they were given a free pass to all the LANs and did not take advantage of it. Thats what lead to their poor performance in the end of the year. On the other hand, I do not think c9 are consistent at all either. No success in the beginning of the year, however they did pick things up in the LCQ. I think they have potential though!
I just gave an example with a region, you're just too dense to understand the whole point.
YvngKurry [#28]Thats true, I just think that since I've seen Liquid play more Im biased
ur brainded
Caskilitonnotilik [#33]You have tail pain. or you are blind. Acend was the best team in Europe from the beginning.
wtf is a tail pain
titanwithpp [#37]I just gave an example with a region, you're just too dense to understand the whole point.
LOL, I do understand your point. You didnt give the best example though.
asdfgh [#36]if you feel this way you might aswell make a thread about kru being fluke
I would, however they didn't get nearly as much success as acend. I would say that KRU have improved the most however, their run at champs was lucky
cNed [#49]agree also cned should leave from team and they will be tier45
LMFAOOO WHY ARE SO MANY ACEND PLAYERS/COACHES HERE
this was the perfect thread to gain attention
YvngKurry [#51]LMFAOOO WHY ARE SO MANY ACEND PLAYERS/COACHES HERE
this was the perfect thread to gain attention
ur cringe
kristof [#52]ur cringe
Im sorry have you gotten pro players and coaches to reply to your threads? i think not. On top of that have you gotten the champs to reply to your thread? I think not.
YvngKurry [#53]Im sorry have you gotten pro players and coaches to reply to your threads? i think not. On top of that have you gotten the champs to reply to your thread? I think not.
didn't you just call them flukers?😂
FightWasTaken [#54]didn't you just call them flukers?😂
I said I dont think they can repeat the same kind of success they did last year on the internation scale. This is all just for friendly debate. Im sure the teams do not care what others think of them after all they did prove they are the best in the world for now. I dont know why people are taking this to heart lol
YvngKurry [#51]LMFAOOO WHY ARE SO MANY ACEND PLAYERS/COACHES HERE
this was the perfect thread to gain attention
i'm just here for upvotes 👍
asdfgh [#12]who will make it to masters then?,liquid hasnt been anymore consistent too
Liquid, Guild and gambit will make it.
Daniveus [#6]acend is not as consistent as other teams but has the highest peak, so anything could happen really
Gambit peak > acend peak, anyday
FightWasTaken [#3]funnily enough they were the most consistent team in Europe with their masters 1 and other challengers titles seems weird how a lot of people say they are inconsistent
This. People who say this clearly don't follow EU Valorant. I don't understand how winning Masters 1 and being consistent top 3 EU team and winning Champions makes them inconsistent? These people only watched Masters 3 and base their opinions around that. There was a reason why they were one of the favorites going into Masters 3 among people who actually followed their games. And then they dare to call teams like Team Liquid more consistent lol
YvngKurry [#19]LCQ?
literally lcq with nivera was the only tourney liquid dominated in the entire year xd
With your logic pretty much every champ run going forwards will be a fluke. There is really really small chance that any team will win back to back Champions considering that it only happens once a year. Even winning 2 international tournaments back to back is pretty unlikely. And I don't understand what you mean with their inconsistency? They were arguably most consistent EU team last year. Outside of missing Masters 2 due to single elimination format (Sentinels lost 1 game as well) and underperformed in Masters 3 they were really consistent.
patuj [#62]This. People who say this clearly don't follow EU Valorant. I don't understand how winning Masters 1 and being consistent top 3 EU team and winning Champions makes them inconsistent? These people only watched Masters 3 and base their opinions around that. There was a reason why they were one of the favorites going into Masters 3 among people who actually followed their games. And then they dare to call teams like Team Liquid more consistent lol
ong fr their first lan they are young they didn't do that good and everyone judging them based on that
cNed [#49]agree also cned should leave from team and they will be tier45
so true, feel bad for cNed's back
arturo_fdez [#64]not today
If you think acends peak (barely winning against gambit) was higher then gambits peak, then thats just sad
PrTsty [#68]If you think acends peak (barely winning against gambit) was higher then gambits peak, then thats just sad
1head take
also no one said winning gambit was their peak lmao
YvngKurry [#75]I told you guys. You just chose to hate me for not reason. Who had the last laugh kekw.
lost 2 games in a meaningless group stage = fluke world champ
nice logic dude
EUisbetter [#76]lost 2 games in a meaningless group stage = fluke world champ
nice logic dude
ah yes meaningless group stage, they probably lost on bind against G2 because it was meaningless to them
PrTsty [#77]ah yes meaningless group stage, they probably lost on bind against G2 because it was meaningless to them
they won a series
EUisbetter [#76]lost 2 games in a meaningless group stage = fluke world champ
nice logic dude
Copium. They have 2 maps they are good on and even then they lost on their best map vs g2 kekw
commonW [#78]they won a series
They’ve lost 2 series. And they’ve gotten owned in both series. Cope harder
YvngKurry [#81]They’ve lost 2 series. And they’ve gotten owned in both series. Cope harder
that doesnt affect the fact that they owned everyone in champs
YvngKurry [#79]Copium. They have 2 maps they are good on and even then they lost on their best map vs g2 kekw
wdym 2? they are good on all the maps bro
commonW [#82]that doesnt affect the fact that they owned everyone in champs
They can’t replicate the results. They got saved by riot, and when given fair matches they get owned.
YvngKurry [#79]Copium. They have 2 maps they are good on and even then they lost on their best map vs g2 kekw
even gambit and liquid are in a slump right now, wtf are you saying
commonW [#83]wdym 2? they are good on all the maps bro
Def not breeze fracture haven. They can only win on split and bind convincingly.
YvngKurry [#88]Def not breeze fracture haven. They can only win on split and bind convincingly.
theyre good on breeze,icebox,haven,bind,ascent
YvngKurry [#84]They can’t replicate the results. They got saved by riot, and when given fair matches they get owned.
of course riot gonna do something if someone is blatantly abusing exploits
and in the replay acend beat them convincingly
Teams keep evolving, and Acend got stuck a bit.
Still, I think Gambit was the best team around Champions.
But let's not forget that Gambit tends to choke against clearly inferior teams from time to time: 100T (Masters Berlin), Acend (Champions) and now FPX.
They should've won those matches comfortably, but they didn't.
Still, Acend was definitely one of the top teams back in Champions times.
Now? Probably still one of the top teams, but now they compete against more teams: Gambit, FPX, Liquid, Fnatic, Guild, G2... And that's just in EU.
commonW [#89]theyre good on breeze,icebox,haven,bind,ascent
They gave up a huge lead vs gambit on breeze and lost breeze vs guild. They got destroyed on fracture vs gambit and guild. They got destroyed on haven vs fnatic just now. They lost convincingly vs g2 on bind. What’s ur point
YvngKurry [#92]They gave up a huge lead vs gambit on breeze and lost breeze vs guild. They got destroyed on fracture vs gambit and guild. They got destroyed on haven vs fnatic just now. They lost convincingly vs g2 on bind. What’s ur point
that makes their champs winning even greater if you think about it.
the other teams are so bad that even acend owned them on these maps
commonW [#94]that makes their champs winning even greater if you think about it.
the other teams are so bad that even acend owned them on these maps
What kind of logic is that Lmfao
commonW [#94]that makes their champs winning even greater if you think about it.
the other teams are so bad that even acend owned them on these maps
true
commonW [#90]of course riot gonna do something if someone is blatantly abusing exploits
and in the replay acend beat them convincingly
"in the replay acend beat them convincingly"
YvngKurry [#92]They gave up a huge lead vs gambit on breeze and lost breeze vs guild. They got destroyed on fracture vs gambit and guild. They got destroyed on haven vs fnatic just now. They lost convincingly vs g2 on bind. What’s ur point
they beat everyone on every map throughout multiple tournaments now they lost once we gonna call their entire thing a fluke?
nice logic dude again
arecyc [#105]biggest flukers are still LOUD
Nah... LOUD still relevant, if we get grouped (as I think we will), there I can agree with you
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