SEA: Foxz on why the team left X10 CRIT

Bolded text represents edits for a more likely truth to be told. Please note some of this could be just speculation/rumors, and if anyone is knowledgable of the Thai scene I would highly appreciate any backing of the statements given.

Update: Regarding all of this, an X10 CRIT staff member has said that many of the things mentioned here may not be true, yet the internal issues were true. Both players and staff are on different sides and are saying different things, so it is important to consider what both parties are saying.

Following X10’s breakout performance in Champions, XIA foxz has opened up on stream as to why the team left X10 CRIT and chose not to renew their contracts.

To put it simply: X10 has had issues with paying the players their cut of the $500,000+ USD (15 million Baht) from Champions skin sales. It seems as if that there was no obligation by Riot towards making orgs to pay the players the money, and likely the Champions cut was initially much less given to the players before a final payment, with issues with receiving money as well. (final figure ranges from ~3 million Baht per player)

0bi, the only member of the former roster sticking with X10, has not said anything regarding the matter. This might be due to contract terms, yet nothing is certain as the situation is messy and filled with speculation.

In addition, foxz also said that X10, FS/Thai players were paid around 15,000 Baht as their salary ($450 USD, figures come from Zeus but it is unknown what it really was, some say 50,000 Baht was their recent salary)
sScary also said that there were also internal issues within the org and team (some of his tweets states that “he is free” after leaving the org)

There is conflicting information on both sides in regards to how much the players were really paid (or whether or not they paid at all), yet its still a scummy situation. Money was likely a contributor as to why the team left, however internal issues also have caused problems on both ends.

Sad stuff to see from the side of X10.
Source: https://youtu.be/yAMzGO_P9Is

damn thats sad

awful org
greedy af

Only 450 USD a month ? Damn that's sad to hear

Have they done something to get the Champion's cut?

Holy shit

man no wonder pati left
:(

this would've been a really good thread if it didnt happen during this t1 tsm shitshow

Wow, no wonder Patiphan moved to owl. So much more secure money.

Sadge L org W players

Yo wtf this is horrible

Trash org wtf

thats fucked up, riot have to do something or prevent this in the future..

bump this shit after the tsm-t1 storm, this is horrible

In light of this, it's better to spread this information to their Facebook as it's where most people in that region congregate. It's a fucked up situation, so thanks for spreading awareness.

Also, later in the video that is linked in the original pot, sScary said that the players have had internal problems with the org for a while now but couldn't leave because they've already signed the contracts

This is just sad,

Tarik, Shroud and J9 were talking about the champions bundle money. I remember them saying that unless its in the contract then the org doesnt really have obligations to pay them their cut because there wasnt an agreement to pay them more than their contract states. So yeah the situation is just horrible for the players. They essentially got exploited by the org.

Should have included a clause about this in the contract. Hopefully the players haven't made the same mistake in the new teams contracts.

sad, but they weren't contractually obligated to pay, so it is what it is.

Wait, so the players would have been paid more money in the end, had they chosen to not sign with the org at all? That's messed up.

what a shit org, i genuinely feel bad for the players. they deserve way better. hopefully X10 suffers the consequences of this info being released.

15000 BHAT = approximately 37000 INR

This is sadge

Time for SEA players to come to SA. We will pay you well.

New updates in bold, very important towards what is really happening

Sadge, 15,000 BATH is minimum wage in Thailand btw.

Bump

Sadge

Holy shi7

If anyone wonder why Thai's Valorant salary was so low, It's bcs of the game just start to grow rapidly in Thai only after FS winning the LCQ.

this is so sad :( actually SEA payment is much more less than any other region, even one of the best pro player in my country choose to be a full time content creator in his peak pro career because he said he got way way more money than being a pro player

1/31 Update:

Regarding all of this, an X10 CRIT staff member has said that many of the things mentioned here may not be true, yet the internal issues were true. Both players and staff are on different sides and are saying different things, so it is important to consider what both parties are saying. There is still lots of speculation to be made, so please keep that in mind.

UPDATE : no hard feelings between the org and the players, they just have a bad timing leave, their new team treated them great and X10 has already got a new roster.

As a Thai, I have heard from one of the player stream (I don't want to mention the name, but he play initiator) that initially he planned to retire this year, but there is a reason that make he decided to compete for another year (which is this year). When the chat ask for the reason he said that

"I can't tell you right now (he might be sued) , but maybe in 5 years I will be able to talk about the reason, it will be a spicy/shock/intense** story to tell".

This might relate to this skin money issue

Additionally, from the news by 'oneesport' which I believe that it is the most recent report of this incident, it was stated that the players still have not received their share.

Note
** I don't know how to translate this specific word

there will be an updated report on this that i will post tomorrow/tonight

I thought all the players and coaches got a total of 10% of the skin money, didn't they?