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Lukaku Jorginho and most overrated Pique (talking about his prime he was never that good)
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Pelé
just because dude learned one trick in the ancient time of football when noone else even knew the shape of the ball and managed to score many goals doesn't mean that he is the goat
Weak bait + Austria didn't won a single world cup + counter ratio if you say 7-1 won a world cup first then u try to joke about it
100% agree
he scored 1000 goals against who? random brazilians farmers who played in the us where football hadn't kicken off yet. ( no pun intended)
The 1000 goals thing is just a plus
He won three world cups, the first when he was 17 years old.
ok but at that time football wasnt as advanced so he was ahead of his time but if u would put him in football now, he wouldnt be considered to be one of the greats
He created the basis of current football, if you look at his playstyle it is similar to what we have today. and doing that in the 70s has a lot of merit
It's the same thing as calling out Einstein and say that "science wasn't advanced at his time"
Both created the basis which the next generations set foot upon, saying something like "put him in football now and he wouldn't be one of the greats" is not a valid comparison.
if you put Einstein in today's science he would still make a difference, though Pelé wouldn't.
This thought proccess does not make sense. You simply cannot say that, because it's an impossible situation to think about. You can only analyse someone's impact in their own time. What would have been of Messi if Maradona did not existed in Argentina? What would be of all the great players from Brazil that inspired themselves from Pele if he did not existed?
You can't say someone is "bad" or "wouldn't make a difference" in the present time cause without them, the rest would not exist.
That is the most stupid comment i ever read about football, Pele is one of the most complete and versatile players of all time, he was as far as a one trick as you are from a p@#%¨#
yeah PROD would also be the best Jett player in the world if he had played against irons in the 1960s
Gareth Bale
Great physic, great pace, but that's really all about him.
Barely any teamplay whatsoever, 0 Gamesense, at least R. Madrid wise
Dunno about Wales or Tottenham back then
nah hes insane, he just gets injures too often, in his peak he was more close to ronaldo and messi than neymar ever was
Why do you thing he's insane?
Maybe for more well-paced leagues like EPL. He could show more potential there.
In a slower league like the spanish one, he's pretty lacklusting. Players like Modric, Vinicius or Messi shines way more. Madrid should've seek a transfer for him long time ago
Btw, you mentioned Neymar.
He's another example he would benefit more in the Spanish league than the french league. French league is very physical as well, reason he doesn't shine as much as he did with Barcelona. PSG needs power, physic, not Neymar. Barcelona needs Neymar, Messi, not explosive players
Neymar didn't take care of his body that's why he isn't explosive anymore + the injuries.
But Neymar has been top5 since his transfer to Barcelona.
This season has been a crap for him so far..but we never know.
Indeed, injuries did him pretty bad, but that's another reason he is not really showing his full potential at PSG
bro you are talking about gamesense, football is not valorant. You can be one of the greatest just with physical attributes, like bale. He won the UCL 4 times like Messi and he carried Wales to the semis of eurocup. He has memorable goals in big matches. He is not the goat but he is not overrated at all
Well, indeed I call it "Gamesense" but you know what I mean. You still have to know how to play in concordance with your team. I don't agree with your statement that you can be one of the greatest "just with physical attributes". Looks like a shit ton of bullshit to me mate.
mbappe, hes good but not good enough to get compared with goats, haaland>>>mbappe
Van Dijk.
Became a top footballer too late.
Just like Salah.
Both are overrated.
Comparing them to Ramos & Messi etc is so dumb
Van Dijk's levels are Bonucci etc.
Salah's levels are Hazard etc.
Hazard was putting a show in lille while mo salah was a flop
i think they're equal.
i agree with ur last statements but i dont agree that u bring up "Became a top footballer too late."
every player had different time of peak. vardy and van der sar peaked when they're over 30 while player like rashford and varane already peaked since they were young but now they're started to declining. just because one player had late peak doesn't mean they are bad.
but i still agree that both of them are on bonucci and hazard levels.
Peaking is different and playing at top level is diff. imo.
They became top players too late and they peaked afterwards.
that's it. that's what im trying to say bro.
you can't saying those who peaked/playing at top level in late time is a bad player, in this case you said salah and van dijk overrated bcs they had late peak.
Everyone knows he spends half his day in a burger king, so he isnt overrated anymore
Nah spanish league is easier.
He was unlucky with injuries and let it go afterwards.
Haaland and Mbappe want to play in la liga because its so easy to score goals.
Haaland and Mbappe cant play counter attack in PL.
It's not about being "easier" or "harder" lmao
It is about the style of play he benefits the most. And that's the EPL
Haaland and mbappe want to play in R. Madrid because they win champions and bring the titles. Fair and square
Hazard played so good in Ligue 1 aswell.
i dont think its him being not suited.
Ligue1 and EPL are physical over tactical. That's why he was better there
He was clever enough for EPL and Ligue1. Not for tactical ones like la Liga
Nah they want to play in la liga they can score goals.
They cant score the same amount of goals in pl.
No lol, they want to join Madrid because its the biggest club in the world, and if you think otherwise you are wrong. 13 champions league titles. They want to build their legacy in the sport and Real Madrid is the best place for that
Brazilian players because everyone of them called legends just because of brazilian fanbase lol.
in fact none of them hit their potential.
Just like Neymar.
i dont want a flop player as a legend that didnt reach his potential.
Pele overrated with goals aswell.
He scores them on his backyard and keeps counting lol.
Bro stop saying bullshit.
Every great players recognize pele as a goat..Cruyff Did..Platini..And CR7 did.
The man won three world cup..his first he was only 17 age.
- He destroyed every european national team.
And brazilian player?
Ronaldo fenomêno, Garrincha, Ronaldinho, Romário, Neymar, Roberto carlos, Marcelo, Bebeto...
Just to name a few..
varane.
he was never that good, yes he won many trophies but that's bcs he played with prime ronaldo, modric, ramos, marcelo, benzema and kroos. i mean anyone could win anything if you have them on ur team. now we know his true color with united. struggling, making mistakes and can't even fix united defense.
but still overrated. people claimed that he was one of the best cb at that time (about same level with ramos and united fans still believe this until now).
Morata. How the fuck did he play on teams like Chelsea, Juventus, R. Madrid or Atleti?
Clumsy as fuck
I’m a barcelona fan, and this is facts literally every youngster that is shining at the masia is being compared to Busquets Iniesta xavi and Messi, like give them time and stop putting that pressure on them
OBJ(carried by Stafford and Cooper Kupp)
Kyle Fuller(literally just a defensive hole)
Frank Clark(best NFL paycheck stealer carried to a super bowl by his offense)
We're talking about the REAL Football, that one you guys call it "Soccer" not about the american football (that is played more with hands than foot btw)
BIG KEKW
Actually he is a awsome player... but his choices and his disease take him away too early
for the ones that don't know what disease he has:
In 2017, Mario Götze discovered that he suffered from myopathy, a disease in the muscle structure that weakens the limbs and makes them painful, making it difficult to perform even everyday physical activities, such as getting up from a chair, going up and down stairs, etc.
Pique overrated during prime when he won world cup and ucl?
And don't tell Puyol alba carry all of them were really good in 2010
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