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Jett & Astra Nerf

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#1
doosean

With a pick rates that are, honestly, too high & many pros agreeing that these two agents should be nerfed (a lot), do you agree or disagree that both Jett & Astra need a nerf? And why they do/don't?

#2
doosean
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In my opinion

  • Jett's dash should be nerfed immediately and upcoming agents should be added to the game so Jett is not only viable pick with an operator (Riot did a good job with a Chamber).
  • With 5 smokes that are easily picked back up and placed somewhere else soon after, Astra as a smoker is just too strong... This smoke retrieval should be more punishable in my opinion & smoke shouldn't last as long as it makes pushing or defending a site, sometimes too easy without anyone being able to counter it properly.
#15
GoldenKey
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I would say that buffing OP and nerfing jett would be the best option there. (if we want the OP viable on any agent.)

but we saw jammpi playing it on sova, soooo Idnk seems hard AF

#3
Infernando10
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imo instead of nerfing astra, they should buff brim and omen since they are really bad rn. Brim and Omen had a 6% and 2% pick rate at champions respectively. They are only played in ranked. And I think people play omen and brim in ranked instead of astra only because she is boring and omen brim are easier to play if your team is not comming unlike astra. But if rito decides to nerf her , it would be interesting how they do it since they already nerfed her a little bit in an old patch.

#6
doosean
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I think balancing the game overall would require nerfs & buffs at the same time... Even if nerfs I mentioned happened, I still think Brim's kit should be buffed (his kit is garbage, even tho his smokes are awesome). Omen's abilities should also get a buff...
It'll be interesting to see how Riot approaches this...

#10
Infernando10
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yeh true, but i think there will be always agents at the top and i dont get the logic of balancing everything i think that would be impossible in a game like valorant. There are some agents i think if they nerf a bit they might be too bad and may not be picked again. There will be always D tier and S tier agents, they all cant be B tier.

#12
doosean
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Yeah, but meta would need to change more often than not so game doesn't become stale... even from marketing perspective it is in game's best interest to make adjustments (as little as they are) so it keeps the meta shifting / changing and overall the pro scene and game more exciting = more $$$

#16
nematoma
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i personally think omen is a very good smoker if people can utilise his one ways which are not possible with other smoker agents

#4
hotpotatoman
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going by the pick rate logic then sova should get heavily nerfed too right?

#8
doosean
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Sova's kit would need to be drastically changed in order to lower his pick rate... He'll always be valuable with his abilities, and one agent I truly feel will never leave the meta unless a heavy rework that nerfs him happens.

#5
coguyy
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dude can't see women in the top, especially if they are from asia/africa. And ofc you hide your flag, dude probably whiter than a white wall

#7
suggestmeausername
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Wtf

#11
doosean
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troll / baiter / attention seeker / bored or probably going through some existential crisis

#13
suggestmeausername
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fr

#14
number_1_poach_fan
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all they need to do is buff omen/brim. With omen having 40 seconds until another smoke and astra only having 15 its just not viable to use omen rn

#17
what_are_you_aiming_at
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astra

-longer recall star recovery, current one is too forgiving
-suck and stun should not recharge, only 1 time use ability
-smoke recharge should be longer, 15 seconds is way too short. nerfing would allow players to think more about when/where to smoke

brim

+increase range or do something to where his little ipad can be more effective with smoking the map. its way too depedent on where he is standing and his range is way too small
+remove stim beacon and replace it with something actually useful. this is the biggest opportunity to make brim stand out from the rest of the controllers.

omen

+faster tp and make it less clunky please. seeing how jett dash/reyna dismiss/chamber tp can be activated nearly instantly this ability is just a liability and so undertuned compared to other agents
+decrease smoke recharge time to something like 20-30 seconds, and have astras be the same.
+please make smoking more efficient compared to brim/astra.
i appreciate how much freedom you have with the smokes but in a game of valorant where split second decisions matter having to press e twice in order to smoke a site is just bad, it should be 1 e press.
+since his ult is the most useless, 6 point ult.

viper

-every single one of her abilities other than her molly have decay. and her molly has vulnerability effect. i think this is way overtuned and makes retaking really difficult and her abilities can be used in conjunction with astra which is already really annoying.. in my personal opinion her poison cloud should NOT have the decay effect and should simply just be a smoke just like every other controller.
-since her ult is easily the most powerful out of the controllers it should be 8 points.

#22
iswish
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stim beacon should have have an added healing ability

#23
WONDERWEISS
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There was a rumour that stim beacon will be like a defuse kit if you defuse with it on the spike. the rumour was fake but the idea was cool to be honest. not thinking brimstone should be buffed. its one of the strongest stall agents and game already almost not playable on attack side because of so many heavy stallers like viper brim, omen, sage.

#18
Danny
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I don’t think astra needs a nerf, nothing about her util is that op imo

I think she’s just picked because she’s the best of an important role

I’d say buff omen and brim

Maybe give omen 2 flashes instead of one

Also replace brim’s stim pack with something else, and make his smokes rechargable

#19
LouBag
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Stim should buff the speed of everything.

Reload faster, weapon switch faster, faster ability cast animations.

Almost like all your movements but move speed are 1.5x faster.

#20
juraf
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d

#21
chockdart
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Astra doesn’t need much of a nerf, maybe 30 seconds recharge for suck but thats about it

Brim and omen need buffs:
-Stim beacon increases movement speed like the spike rush beacon, OR make the stim beacon increase damage instead of firing rate.
-Both brim and omen ult down to 6 points
-Brim’s ipad greatly increase range, remove omen’s range limit altogether

For jett I’ve said this before but make her dash shorter if she is not dashing forward, so that she can’t play too out of position

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