Why is T1 over nongshim?

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sharktooth34

Why has T1 ended above Nongshim on the table for seedings? They both have the same game and map win/loss, but nonshim is +15 on rounds whereas T1 is only +4. Am I missing something?

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Because T1 defeated Nongshim head to head.

#3

Skyns

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head2head

#4

sharktooth34

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Right I didn’t think of that

#5

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i think theres something random going on over here, riot needs to clarify why they arbitrarily chose 3
https://x.com/ns_observing/status/1914653061701886224
https://x.com/Francisvlrt/status/1914654180800913560

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sharktooth34

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To me it feels weird- I understand they won the head to head but nongshim came out of the stage with the better win loss ratio with rounds. Idk

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1nshh

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https://www.vlr.gg/476826/pacific-playoffs/#27

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It's messy because
T1 beat NS, Zeta, Secret, lost to Talon, RRQ
Talon beat T1, Secret, NS, Lost to RRQ and Zeta
RRQ is auto first seed for some reason because they beat T1 and Talon, but lost to NS, Team Secret
NS beat RRQ, Zeta, Secret, lost to T1 and Talon

I think it's just Map diff though, because RRQ was 8/5
Talon 6/6
NS and T1 7/6
And NS is lower than T1 because they played more rounds, I guess, even though Nongshim has a better round diff in +15 compared to +4

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meanmean

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*Talon lost to Zeta and RRQ

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CxsmicEntity

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You're so right

#9

ZekaGoat

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That's not the question that you should be asking, it should be " why is talon above t1 and ns".

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sharktooth34

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I do agree it feels strange seeing talon above T1 and maybe in some cases NS with how they play but I like the narrative that talon have had a W/L/W/L streak this whole year. It’s really funny to me

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CxsmicEntity

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Didn't Talon beat both of them though?

#13

meanmean

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Because H2H