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SEN theory

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#1
gamergirl

Having JohnQT play initiator to help with midrounds actually hurts them, and the adjustment is probably why they sucked earlier

Zellsis is obviously one of the midrounders and was initiator (or the sentinel on like icebox, but KJ is more of a mid leaning agent on that map)

Anyways, SEN becoming stagnant in the midround, is because Zellsis is simply the better midrounder, and he's now playing away from the pack.

I don't see a reason in keeping zellsis if you're going to continue to struggle calling against top teams, he offers way more value in the initiator role than JohnQT does

Either JohnQT Sentinel, or sign a sentinel who can provide more value, since Zellsis' role has diminished

#2
lxolotl
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this has been obvious from the start and i honestly dont understand why they are still forcing this zellsis senti thing

#3
gamergirl
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JohnCuckT ego I fear..

#4
lxolotl
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the thing is, they already knew this wouldnt work because last year the reason they suffered with the deadlock comps wasnt cuz the comps sucked, but because of zellsis being on lurk

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MrBulbe
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Finally someone said it. JohnQT is ruining SEN with his ego

#6
gamergirl
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Might be Kaplan to be honest, I have no clue who's forcing the roles..

Either way, JohnQT is still really good, but I think Zellsis is only worth it on initiator, just get another senti if you want atp

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Kirako
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nrg did this in 2023 and ended up going 1-3 in the regular season then switched back to normal and won 5 following games

in a game vs mibr they played 3 different players on killjoy lol

#MVGA

#8
gamergirl
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people overrate the initiator IGL so much

#9
AstroGalaxy
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Maybe its a comfort thing? I dont think the mid rounding is that bad tbh

but ig we will have to wait for playoffs since the teams there arent fodder

#10
cameran
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they shouldve dropped n4rrate since he was the main cause on these role changes

#12
gamergirl
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the main cause was JohnQT wanting to play initiator lmfao? JohnQT is playing Zellsis' agents not Sacy's

#13
cameran
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nah n4rrate was the cause since he couldnt adapt to senti, john already knew how to play init so switching back is fine

someone wanting to play another agent doesnt make them the problem if your flex player cant flex

#11
SleepingSnorlax
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Just fucking revert back to your original roles please put John on senti

#14
Yistyy
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Just sign shroud and blitz through LCQ.

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A1pha1
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I think all of it just comes down to the fact that john is a better aimer, more agressive lurker and better contacting player than Zellsis is. I think both of them are good at inititator but john is just better sentinel than zellsis. Thats why you are seeing this version of SEN as a more pack heavy style rather than 1-3-1, 4-1s they used to do with older team.
But they are doing this for a reason, they tried N4RRATE on sentinel first, then N4RRATE on flex and John on scan+tejo, now in stage 1 N4RRATE is playing more scan+tejo and John is flexing. They've certainly tried john on senti and N4RRATE and Zellsis at initiator combo in scrims but it looks like this is the best version they think the team can be. I think you should just trust Kaplan and johnqt at handling the role situations better since they've shown they can pull off a role change of a player in team with TenZ, also we dont know the scrim results and what else goes on the team inside.

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gamergirl
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you can say things like we don't know scrims etc but the results in officials show that when zellsis plays with the pack sentinels is a better team in the midround

thats all im saying

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I agree with you that last years SEN were never "I will outaim you" team, they always won matches with better macro, thats why they were bad at maps with no macro like Abyss, Breeze and Icebox. I think this new version of the team playing more pack heavy is because of the meta being execute heavy. Zellsis is playing in the pack on maps he plays vyse but we saw him lurk a lot when he was on cypher on Haven, viper on split etc. Just give them bit nore time to get better at other maps, cuz I agree with you that they are playing some maps bit too fast especially Lotus attackside.

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