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#1
Skorp4k

i know this thread is gon reach the indian haters and ge meatriders and ive said that indian players are trash but at this point isnt it better to have indian players play in franchise instead of foreign players. even the foreign players aint achieving nothing. If a team who has used India for the spot and for the fanbase dosent have a sole indian in the team thats js dumb. atleast use your resources for indian players instead of foreign players who are also achieving nothing. "tryouts blah blah indians couldnt make it through there aswell", even dos9 was rejected in the tryouts and look at how he has done in boom, makes you really wonder about their tryouts. anyways i would like to see some people's take on this who wont be blindly hating. id genuinely rather watch indians get 13-1'd instead of foreign players atp.

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xonya
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with or without indian player

they are still hopeless

#3
Skorp4k
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i hope they find jobs instead of investing in esports bro. better to be financially comfortable instead of losing all their money in their 40s

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goatman123
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im pretty sure they are even on their investment according to the owner or at least will be in the near future

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Wall_Bug
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Who did GE loose to this stage so far?
BOOM and DRX
How many other pacific teams do you believe can bet these two right now?
They are going through some shit right now, cut them some slack

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Prathades
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IMO BOOM DRX and T1 are in the top 3.

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MassterBaiter
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They have been going through shit for 3 years lmao.
Idk why these stupid ass GE fan loves mediocrity so much. This even isn't mediocrity this is straight up being thrashed and these GE fans still want to gawk gawk GE till end of their lives

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Wall_Bug
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  • GE did not have esports pedigree like all the other orgs did when they were selected as a partner. For that they built a pretty good roster for 2023.
  • I don't sympathize with GE for their 2024 season. That was a budget roster and the results were expected.
  • But I believe they deserve to be given some slack, considering what they tried to do and what they partially achieved this year.
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MassterBaiter
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The problem of GE is Chusindra Sinha and his asshole management.

GE is doomed coz of them and their weird expectations and lack of discipline

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Ronyko23
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Only patrickbot is mid.Ge roster is quite good with udo perma duelist & deryeon sent.2nd map against drx was close even after playing 4v5.

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goatman123
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venka hard diffed patrickbot in the showmatch, i guarantee u patrickwho only made it because of ping and neon meta

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Pixalfv
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Talon, G2, LEV, Karmine Corp, all orgs without a player from orgs country whats ur point

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Skorp4k
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never used their country's name for a fanbase or to get the franchise spot and these are all multinational orgs bro why are you even comparing them with GE

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de2eqewe2q
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LEV has huge brazillian following? whats ur point

#33
Pixalfv
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dude the owner of GE is literally an Indian guy, he didn't "use" India to get a fanbase and a franchising spot, all he did was choose to sign foreign players because they were better options, also it is called Global Esports

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cxrsedval
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wait Talon isnt a thai org?

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Skorp4k
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talon is taiwanese or hong kong or something btw

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cxrsedval
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oh wtf i always thought they were a thai org

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aburnie
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They are heavily intertwined with the Thai scene across multiple esports titles and have headquarters here. They're an honorary Thai org in my heart lmfao but seriously though, I don't think there are any Thai orgs with the same level of professionalism as TALON so I'm honestly relieved they're our representative even if they're technically a HK/TW org.

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grisx23
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G2 is EU org based in NA (kind like dsg), and Lev does have a latam player

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aburnie
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The difference I suppose is that in PACIFIC, these franchise orgs were specifically advertised as the reps of specific countries so in general people were hyped and have expectations as such for teams to field players of that specific nationality. While TALON isn't specifically a Thai org, they do have a heavy presence in the Thai scene across multiple esports titles and have a branch of headquarters here and hence why they feel obligated to maintain a Thai core at the very least.

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exactly bro some people here are comparing us to EMEA which is stupid the teams their are selected for their brand values mostly with 1 or 2 to represent major countries whereas in Pacific every team has been selected to represent a particular country in mind. Idk why its so hard for them to understand that if Riot had more slots they weren't going to select Boom or Nongshim rather it would have been an OCE team and Fancy united thats our structure

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charleser
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GE's problem right now doesn't seem like the players individual skill, they've had many great players over the years (Patrick is questionable) more so the lazy org/poor management, if you want to see Indians in t1 maybe GE should give me resources to their Academy team, the org just throws money to a bunch of cracked players from all over the world and fumbles them

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SleepingSnorlax
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Don’t even talk about the academy team they are doing worse

#17
Camille
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true be like zeta or dfm, they know they are going to lose but they still dont import players because they have pride in representing themselves

#18
SleepyBear
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This is why franchise/partnership does not suit Pacific

idk why this issue i only see more in Pacific rather than EMEA/NA. ppl here prefer players from their own countries rather than a good player, a Player being in Tier 1 not because they Deserved it but because they from X country

its frustrating when talent and hard work are overlooked because of nationalist bias. Players deserve recognition based on their ability, not their passport. If Tier 1 status is given based on nationality rather than performance, its ggs to the competitive scene💀

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Skorp4k
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were you born with an extra chromosome?

#37
SleepyBear
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better than being a delusional

#23
Invic_Deep
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If what you guys mentioned was true Riot will never select the 10 orgs that they have ,trust me the composition of teams would be lot different. I dont know why a simple point people cant understand that Pacific teams are literally selected based on their nationalities in an attempt to represent the diverse fanbase of Pacific. GE is here not bcz they are top 10 org in Asia Pacific but because they are top org of India same goes for lot many other teams. Everybody knows Talon is supposed to represent Thailand, RRQ indonesia, DFM and Zeta Japan, T1 DRX and Geng Korea , Secret PH. The only team you can argue which is here on their brand value like EMEA or Americas is PRX but even they are supposedly representing SG/Malaysia.

I hope you all haven't forgotten the uproar from Indonesian fans when RRQ initially wanted to continue with their PH core rest I shouldn't need to explain why and what is expected of others

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SleepyBear
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brother the uproar from Indonesian fans when RRQ sign PH player is completely different story. whos they sign again ? emman,2ge,nexi,kelly,EJAY ? (this player cant even win in their subregion (secret was always better than them).

when ur region has a lot of talented player ONIC & BOOM were clearly bihind Xerxia & PRX at that time, and u sign random player that not even better than both ONIC & BOOM player whould u be MAD ? its not like RRQ sign Aspas/demon1/Buzz etc cmon now

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Invic_Deep
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I have been following this scene since almost day 1 , you are right they weren't top players but that was just a justification for creating an uproar that RRQ is supposed to represent Indonesia and this was the point which was mentioned everywhere first and foremost. They didn't even get a single match in VCT to atleast prove themselves and half of them were cut in off season after announcement of franchising and subsequent uproar
Also I hope you have been keeping track of the hate estrella was getting if he slightly underperformed, Crazyguy got the same in first match and wait for him to underperform you will see the hatred return, you can connect dots and it's not a phenomenon restricted to just Boom fans either lest someone thinks I am taking a dig at my indo brothers.

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SleepyBear
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how is that just a justification for creating an uproar that RRQ is supposed to represent Indonesia
ofc they as an orgs they represent indo, but the palyer ? if that player actually better and good talent whos tf care : did they mad when budimaister get replace by zesbew & zesbew get replayce by dos9 ?

if actually following the scene since day 1 like u say , i don't even need to explaining everything like what u say about the uproar fans that get mad, we are one of the regions with the most talented players in SEA tf

#28
SleepingSnorlax
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I completely agree GE just giving to the players which are deserving like Kristal Even papi to some extent then we have clueless Indian fans in vlr still crying Indian players who will 0-13 everytime

#22
de2eqewe2q
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brainded PRX fans as usual, tier1 spot in any team is earned NOT given to the players,
if indian players want to represent GE they need to prove that they are better than these indo players.

#24
TiTAN619
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Indian players doing pretty well in NA T2 & hitting Radiant Top 100 every act.

https://www.vlr.gg/player/34057/jerrwin/?timespan=90d
https://www.vlr.gg/player/15051/sacred/?timespan=90d
https://www.vlr.gg/player/45358/yearn/?timespan=90d

#26
MassterBaiter
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NRIs don't give a fuck about India

#35
TiTAN619
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Don't know about others but these 3 do. Maybe try following them on Twitch and Twitter.

#25
dreambasgod
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Riot needs to relegate GE

#29
zarpela
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doesnt make sense on my mind
a billion people in the country and not a single one good player

#41
Wall_Bug
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There is not much of a Gaming culture in India.
Q) Where do the players come from?
A) From those that financially well and are allowed to play PC games from childhood. Which is a very small fraction of that billion people.

#34
PrettyBoy_
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I think SkRossi and Lightningfast are good enough when compared to GE now, and if GE loses, they should lose with Indian players

#43
Wall_Bug
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No way you think that....

#42
Biostar
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At this point, I don't think there's anyone who wouldn't admit that botssi is much better than Shitrickwho.
Rushindra has the will to win for real, hence 0 indian is good, but ge's scouting is fraud as hell.

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