Brazil and SEA Last hope

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Hoshi_0326

today at 1 pm it's do or die for Brazil and SEA/Philippines team VSK Versus Team Secret which team will you pick to win

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sea hopium.
very very very very close match if both teams feel it. hoepfully a banger

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Hoshi_0326

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Let's go SECRET

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SEA

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it is going to be a banger

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Last hope for SEA? You really think X10 can't make it to playoffs, after that performance by NV and X10?

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YAYE

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envy knew how to counter SEA aggressive playstyle, vivo keyd didnt tho.

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X10 vs Envy was close regardless.

It should not have been even a 13-5 IMO.

X10 looking really weak even in their region while envy just came back from Berlin going into the finals and beating some of the best teams in the world.

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ItsHunter

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Welp i guess this aint the case anymore huh, dude x10 is going crazy man

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X10 looked shaky without pati.

With pati they are easily top 3 NA.

#PatiSupremacy

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YAYE

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Sushiboys is quite effective with Jett

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DUDUDU

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I really hope that a Chinese team can participate, but we don’t even have a server

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davmg

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hopefully the game actually launches in there like they said it would

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Raevus

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Just waiting for the day tyloo brings back the peak CS roster in val.
Mass copium to see xaccurate and bntet playing.
Get somebody in, and DD. that'd be great to see.

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DUDUDU

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I don’t want people with CNCS to join val. I don’t have confidence in them. I hope that new teams will appear.

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Raevus

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I want indo cs to swap. Can only imagine forsaken,xaccurate and bntet together. Bntet by far the best player to ever come out of SEA.

Just dont want to see them fade into obscurity even more in cs. Both bntet and xaccurate are amazing. Their talent will slowly fade as CNCS or SEACS fades with val on the rise.

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I am surprised vlr.gg isn't banned in China

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Stendo

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i don't think they banned site beside porn & terrorism related like other asian country, company like facebook, google and other not banned, they just lazy to follow regulation and avoid paying taxes.

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DUDUDU

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However, most websites outside of China need a VPN, and they only dare to watch but don’t dare to express excessive views about their country. Some people go to jail because of this.

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Stendo

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VPN good for safety, it should common practice to use for anyone who use internet.
About politic, there's good and bad thing about it.
Bad for free to speech, but good for limited spreed false information or hoax, take twitter or facebook for example, that shit wild, they use false information to engage user, so people spend more time on their platform.

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DUDUDU

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Yes, I don’t know the reason, but I still need a VPN to watch the game.

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I see mens

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Philosopher_Stone

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how much do you get playing? like 70-80? I am assuming you play on Korean servers

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DUDUDU

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Hong Kong server 40-50

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What about x10?

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Hoshi_0326

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envy already know how to counter x10 but let see them match tonight on 4pm

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Pemetro

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As I said... what about x10?

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Already in the playoffs, idk about envy

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YAYE

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envy knew how to counter SEA aggressive playstyle, vivo keyd didnt tho.

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Team Secret 100% they were a lot more convincing against Gambit at first, i feel like if they can gain the confidence by beating Vikings theyre on their way to getting to the finals

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sundaymondaytuesday

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I never doubted team secret and I think they will get atleast top 4

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guyphoe

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if they get top 4 i will support SEN in VCT 2022 and Eat expired food

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get ready lmao

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guyphoe

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i have my expired food ready if they do

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bro

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guyphoe

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im now confident they will win so have my 10 months expired food on mmy desk

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bandwagondestroyer

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In light of Envy going out in groups I wanted to discuss what exactly their plan is on Split. They've consistently refused to use Raze ever since Yay’s disastrous 11-13 performance against Gambit in Berlin, which cost them their shot at winning the tournament.

Since then, Envy lost 8-13 to X10 on Split running a Raze-less comp, and they used that same comp. Sure, Yay can't play Raze but I don't understand why someone like Victor can't flex the role as a secondary duelist? He's demonstrated he can perform very well on the character in the past. When every other pro team is bring Raze to Split it just feels like Envy are choosing to fight an uphill battle by missing out on her utility, which is so impactful in such a close-quarters map.

If Envy refuse to play the optimal comp on Split, then I don't see why they don't ban Split instead of Ascent, because this map has clearly been one of their weaknesses ever since Berlin. Obviously we wouldn't be having this conversation if they had just closed out the 9-3 lead on one of their best maps Haven, but going forward I feel like Envy need to make changes to how they approach one of the most popular maps in pro play. What do you guys think?

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The lack of flexibility from the duelists, especially not picking Raze when needed, seems to be biting teams now. SEN, NV had the same problem and they've suffered. Also, given how the tournament has progressed, Breach's value has increased exponentially at the highest tier. SEA teams qualified significantly off their Breach's impact.

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bandwagondestroyer

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appreciate the thought,but this was a copypasta, but yeah na teams just refuse to play breach, and raze on split it was their undoing