Keznit | VLR.gg

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thenutoriousPRO

no question top 10 player ever

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I mean for sure right? He has been doing it for so long

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thenutoriousPRO

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mr consistent

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aspas without achievements

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and like -5% skill

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fair

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on jett only*

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nah aspas is a better oper and is slightly superior in aim and movement, keznit is a slightly superior entry fragger

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aspas is a better jett and oper, keznit is a better raze and rifle

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idk bout that rifler part

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well, its my opinion, obviously we can see the stats, but, its just that, my opinion

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yeah, for me, he's the most consistant player... maybe with aspas, but yes!! happy to see people saying that finally

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localkoolkid

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idk about ever bro

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why?

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thenutoriousPRO

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hes been insane since 2021
that level of consistency is unheard of

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localkoolkid

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so have other players, and said players have achievments/trophies (also his avg placements in internationals is damn near last place in each)

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thenutoriousPRO

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what players have remained at a world class level that long

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"World class level" his world is literally only americas 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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he went to every champions and got good stats too

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thenutoriousPRO

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hes been to every champs and if he won an 18-16 ot game he would have gone to champs finals

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1: Derke
2: Mako
3: Chronicle
4: Leo
5: Alfajer
6: TenZ
7: Aspas
8: Sacy
9: Less
10: even fucking LAKIA has more achievments then bro
(could keep going btw)
also ik it is not since 2021 but they have done more in less time
Also "world class" is cap, bro is regionally class

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we are talking about the player, not about achievements
keznit has a 6k in a champions!!

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localkoolkid

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was almost half a decade ago bro, my man was hunting cavemen with a bow and arrow.

Also the players all have higher peaks then the guy, while being consistent at a high level, and have trophies to back it up, if you disagree you are deluded.

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he make it top the top stats every year, i don't disagree, but, give him some merit

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he is good don't get me wrong, but top 10 is crazy, bro is lucky to sniff top 20

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ah yes but i won't call it lucky, but yea, atleast he got the top 20

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thenutoriousPRO

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let me break down each one

derke: i can agree he is very consistent, but as i mentioned to someone else his peak is not on the same level as keznit. but yes he has remained at a world class level
mako: sure i agree
chronicle: sure
leo: not sure who started this narrative that leo has always been world class but no one really rated him like that pre fnatic. he was still very good but i would not say world class until maybe late 2022
alfa: where was he in 2021?
tenz: tenz in 2022 and 2023 was not world class
aspas: technically didnt become world class until 2022 but ill let it slide
sacy: sacy was not world class in 2023 or 2021
less: same as aspas but ill let it slide
lakia: never been world class lol

so in total u listed 3 players who have remained at a world class level that long

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localkoolkid

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they still clear Keznit (except Lakia but I was just making a trophy joke)

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SA teams level are very low, kru members are mid... I think that even so standing out in a team like this, going to all the champions, is a great merit, and he has always been a good player

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bc you never heard of derke, only him, keznit and aspas are the only ones who have been insane since 2021

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thenutoriousPRO

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derke has never been as good as the other 2
but yes he is somewhere around top 20 as well

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cascascas

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lmfao, never been good as the other 2

aspas=derke
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only regional merchant other than the 2021 champs run

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thenutoriousPRO

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derke is nowhere near aspas. great player but he is nowhere near as explosive or dominant as keznit and aspas. like derke never seemed like a "star" duelist player, which if fine because it fit fncs playstyle but hes not the type of guy you build a team around like keznit aspas zekken t3xture kangkang etc

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lmfao are you seeing vitality right now? it proves that derke was not a system player, shows your lack of val knowledge and only paying attention to americas

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never called derke a system player shlawg

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then elaborate the fncs playstyle lmfao

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ok no this is complete cap, derke single handedly won FNC so many games

the reason u say he isnt explosive is because he was put on a leash in FNC, he said this in an interview and he says he feels more free in vitality and you can literally see the difference

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Even Buzz

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braindead

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washedradiant

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its all time, not since you started watching valorant

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he hasnt done shit since 22 and you know it

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thenutoriousPRO

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did u watch lcq 2023??? keznit literally singlehandedly dragged his team to champs as the 10 seed

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you genuinely didnt watch the games if you are unironically saying "singlehandedly"

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thenutoriousPRO

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maybe not singlehandedly but he was by far the best player on that team, i dont know if any other duelist in the world can carry that team to champs, maybe not even aspas

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achievement wise no his team was mid for so long, but individually always saves himself a spot in top stats

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x_knowitall39_x

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individually he looks good on a mid team. still braindead to call him a top 10 player ever. you dont even need to ponder to name up 15 players that deserve it more

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so, who is better than keznit?
make me a top 10 most consistant players ever

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moving the goalpost from top 10 ever to top 10 consistent but its okay ill play your game

derke aspas sacy pancada cauanzin chronicle leo zekken tenz less

not even the top 10 consistent player ever but tops keznit, and crazily enough, all but one has trophies

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cauanzin, pancada and sacy is crazy

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x_knowitall39_x

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wow. youre just delusional. I don't know how else to put it, I even went for specifically the players who have been playing for years but you just cant accept it

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i ask you for the most consistent but u said in the same answer "not even the top 10 consistent"

continue thread →

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thenutoriousPRO

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pancada sacy and tenz were all pretty shit on sen for a bit tbh, wouldnt call them more consistent. i have no idea why cauanzin is on that list considering he did nothing pre franchising. others i could maybe agree with but not sure about zekken and derke

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16 year old cauanzin top fragged a match against prime top 3 zeta on masters reykjavik on his rookie year (and with a very troll team)

https://www.vlr.gg/84646/ninjas-in-pyjamas-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-decider-a/?game=all&tab=overview

next year he was at loud and since then he has more international appearances than keznit himself

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keznit got a 6k at champs shlawg

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thenutoriousPRO

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name 10 players better all time

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1658/champions-tour-2023-americas-last-chance-qualifier
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2004/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2095/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2

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literal stat merchant

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regional merchant

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thenutoriousPRO

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i mean its not like he chokes in internationals kru has just never been that good

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i wouldn't really say choking but since kru 2021 run he never goes as well internationally as he does regionally. he usually just farms on "easier" games on regular season and people elevate him to a status he never has been. it is a good player, but still got a lot to prove to be on the greatest conversation

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crazy that lev benched him for Tacolilla in 2023, that lev team was crazy they lowkey could have maybe won a masters if they kept keznit

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He's great but top 10?????????? Be for real now. He'd be lucky to get a shout in a top 20 list