What is wrong with talon

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KClaw

They aren't making any damn roster changes???what the hell, except for primmie everyone on the team is a half assed player and not good enough , bro their own VCL Thailand produces good players who could be these people replacement easily , cgrs, ptc, John olsen, leviathan, the list goes on bro , what the hell??

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They made champs

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KClaw

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Yo bro go watch the match which was imp to win to make champs , that match team secret threw heavyyyy like bro the are getting 3v1ed every other round , secret was throwing away their advantages like a fucking baby

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tserc

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They were made to counter Secret's strats. TLN was just a train wreck during 2024 (Split 2) (well, this is my opinion)

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I just feel like it's insane to say that a team that ended top 4 last year HAS to make changes. Not every team that doesn't win a title has to drop players.

Plus, just taking out the worst two from Talon and dropping in the best two from a challengers team isn't just gonna automatically make them better. Talon would probably still dogwalk everyone in VCL Thailand.

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They were terrible all year and won one game which got them champs

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PP12123213123

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Terrible? they win against every champ spot contender(rrq ts t1 ge)

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Maybe a harsh word but they weren’t very good. They snuck into champs from a weak region, they got shit on against 3rd seed of apac frequently. 13-0

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KClaw

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Dude GE was out way before cause they had to win against geng to qualify (difficultly level - impossible), t1 was just a mid team who also fluked to Shanghai cause geng had a bad day,

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videte

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ngl ts and rrq look better than them, talon would lose 7 out of 10 matches againts ts and rrq

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all 7/10 never happen

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EyeZick

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johnolsen and ptc have been hardstuck challengers on the same team for 4 years man they are not as good as u think

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KClaw

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I mean maybe but they have others as well bro, for some reason they both don't wanna change teams , others are good as well atleast if not whole make one two changes I guess, it's insane

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KClaw

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Bro that guy got to stay cause he helped them made champs i guess, but I think he's a fraud ( maybe he actually isn't but I do think so like that) he was yapping mid season how the previous team he coached had way more potential then these bums and bro asked primmie to igl during their champs qualification match against secret on the second map of abyss cause they hadn't scrimmed it at all and primmie had played some ranked on it, but they won that cause secret is choking team

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they cant even make the last round of GE open tryouts lmao

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FRAUD COACH

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Welcome to Fr0000000000000000000000000st era baby

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KClaw

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Fraud

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Taking Crws off IGL will be a disaster. Ban has been consistently underwhelming to me and he wasn't even on the IGL role (though Frost plans to make him IGL while Crws moves to the bench/AC). I don't mind Governor, keep him on duelist entry while letting Primmie flex. Only issue is picking up another Thai talent while speaking English is odd but not impossible.

They are definitely a scrim team who crumble under pressure but if their results are as good as they say, they honestly don't need a roster change, just more practice with Primmie.

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hin scrims during champs they destroyed almost every team in other groups but they looked bruh in match i think its okay to give them another chance if the kickoff they're still horrible they might do roster change.