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#1
Aayan

stuns arent broken (i.e. they aren't too weak or they aren't too strong) theyre fine as they are, the only people who really die to stuns are the people who push up close to the stunned player, then those same people go on to complain about a 'cosmetic stun'

imo you deserve to be punished for pushing close to someone whos stunned, otherwise it would be as good as a detain (detain = killjoy ult/gekko ult status effect)

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kalayav_n
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wide swinging against a stun is probably the most powerful thing ever, but its the risk of "did i really stun him?"

#3
Hades_Loves_Rb
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counter point: https://youtu.be/paxPyVnaDcA?t=7022

#4
kanyefan4238173
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do i have to watch the full 5 hrs

#5
Hades_Loves_Rb
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i linked it too the time to watch lil bro

#6
kanyefan4238173
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ok bettervlr needs to fix that

#7
Aayan
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wait though that literally helps prove my point though, LOUD got punished for playing in such a tight space against stunned players

#8
eszett
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tbf stuns in val are weak actually

#9
Aayan
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wait I just realised people may interpret broken as OP, no that's actually the argument I'm trying to make

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eszett
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oh sorry

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