Barça debut | VLR.gg

Mortadelo

Much better than expected, GN are supposed to be favorites and they did really well. Jesse is an amazing throw

That being said what am I fucking watching you cannot lose this many antiecos and superiorities man.... that fucking hurts should have been a 2-0

Also Guardy needs to wake tf up

Rocky54

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Guardy just don't got it on him

Mortadelo

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Nothing further from the truth, he's arguably the best individual player on the team most days

Rocky54

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Whatever make you sleep good a night man

Mortadelo

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Tf you mean it's objectively true xD

koromast

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bro its literally real, he wasnt playing like himself today

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JuanEmeve

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playing that role is really hard on matches like this, he is good individually, but he has the responsability to play around the utility, it's similar to the igl effect, not his best day for sure

islaaa

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they played well GN are just too strong rn. they still have lots of games to prove themselves

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Not just too strong, GN were better yes, but it was 100% doable

Polission

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Since when were GN favorites? even some the people on broadcast were shocked GN winning.

The Favorites according to the broadcasts were Apeks and DSYRE

Also including i never saw any hype really on GoNext until they won a map against Apeks

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Hat11

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A couple of people had them as favourites but not as many

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koromast

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you live under a rock? apeks and dsyre play against milkers on their vcls, no one denies they are crazy talented and great players but go next qualified beating acend and diamant which are known for building crazy talented teams, before go next won it all on their vcl everyone said the ascension was going to be won by apeks or acend but acend got shit on by gonext every single time thus go next is strong af

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Polission

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That still doesnt deny the fact the spotlight wasnt on them until they won a map on Apeks opposed to Apeks having WAY bigger of a spotlight on them and DSYRE been given a favorite for their record

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yeah thats true apeks was the bigger favourite but i personally always felt like they were going to choke, for some reason they always sign chokers, i wont elaborate

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Polission

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You can take them as your favorites all you want, some people had VALIANT as favorites and thats fine.

The cold hard truth is they weren't Favorites for the overall community or the official broadcast

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Slimee

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This mans arguing but avoiding the points made and just yapping. What brainrot

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Well that might have been your spotlight, I had them beating Apeks in my pickems

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Congo1

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there isnt any "spotlight" cuz nobody actually watches t2 that much. Youre gonna get the best takes from VlR on T2 unironically. And vlr was very high on eastern league all the way.

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Mortadelo

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Well they were my favorites at least, can't speak for everyone else but did see quite a few people think so aswell

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kanyefan4238173

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That’s cause u listen to the casters. The casual opinion is that apeks were favourites but most people who are more interested in tier 2 favoured other teams, often gonext

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Polission

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I cant take what you say to face value cause your flair, cant help but feel like its a bias.

However I'm not talking just from the broadcast i saw visibly almost no hype anywhere for GoNext. Whether its something to do with the org or other reasons i cant think of off the top of my head is a different story, It doesn't change the fact to the grand majority they were not favorites and therefore weren't considered Favorites by that process.

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Betting sites which are as unbiased as one can be had GN as 2nd favorite behind apeks before ascension started. Just because people who don't watch east slept on them doesn't mean they were not favorites (btw one of the casters yesterday said they did not have GN in their top 5 which shows all you need to know about their T2 knowledge).

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kanyefan4238173

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LOL

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Congo1

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Dysre was never a favourite. they are solid like saw but more than top 4 would be shocking from them.

The favourites for top 4 were gonext, apex, pacific and joblife imo.

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Polission

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DSYRE were selected as favorites for their record alone, any complaints about that don't belong with me.

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Matter of fact a lot of people has Dsyre going 0-4

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Polission

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and where you looking for this information?

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Mortadelo

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At the people I saw putting them 0-4 xD

Italy's overall level is quite low, people rank it as one of the weakest regions so dominating there does not necessarily mean much

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Polission

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Like i said, selected for record alone

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Fytyny

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GN has better record than Dsyre against stronger teams

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Polission

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very true but it doesn't change the fact there wasn't nearly as much visible hype to Apeks nor were they talked about too much other then people talking about zeek specifically.

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Mortadelo

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Okay, and what is that suppose to mean? You asked why I think people thought they would go 0-4 and I answered. Tf you want me to say xD

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Polission

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1st. No I asked where the information came from, not why you think that. (Which wasn't even answered either)
2nd. I was just letting you know that's why they were highlighted in that way.
3rd. You didn't even say anything to answer the question so you acting like you have said all there is to say is confusing considering you didn't even say what was asked.

I am done this meaningless dispute, at this point almost all of you are just dodging points given rather then contributing, barely any valid points have been given.

Have a good day

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Slimee

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How about both yall stop yapping, GoNext werent favorites he correct and DYSRE werent favorites thats just the facts of it even if dysres record is good and people highlighted that they arent favorites, Pollision is right there was barely any public hype over GoNext and the majority didint have them as favorites and neither did the officials. THERE YOU GO END OF STORY!!

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Fytyny

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If you looked at the bookmaking stakes before the ascension started you would see that Apeks was favourites and GN was close second for getting out from the group.

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Mortadelo

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As I said they were my favorites and still are. So when I made a thread about my thoughts on Barsa debut I also included MY favorite, and I’ve got my pickems to proof I’m not just yapping

And again, the reason why there was no hype with GN is because people don’t follow all tier 2 leagues and GN doesn’t have big names