is tenz the greatest?

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kskm

fuck man has 2 majors in 2 different roles.. who else has that?

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omegaishere

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No

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hes up there

but whats better? 2 trophies in 2 roles or 3 trophies and flex for all 3

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2 majors in different roles more impressive for me

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and the trophies were not fraudulent (if we can call the trophies TenZ won not fraudulent, we can call Lock In legitimate)

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icebox 21 much more fraudulent than lock in

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iceland* 😭😭😭

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nah its canonically called icebox now

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bronzil_enjoyer

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im cooked

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if we can call the trophies TenZ won not fraudulent, we can call Lock In legitimate

can you explain why? lock in was single elim which is why its fraudulent all of TenZ wins were double elim formats. Masters >>>> lock in

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they were single elim qualifiers 😹and go ahead and tell me who were gonna beat fnatic in the grand finals in lock in had it been double elim? shitRX? kkkkkkkkkkk

not to mention that m0drid had 8 teams only

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K4ziuHa

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while chad//in had 40 teams

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localkoolkid

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First masters ever, prehistoric, teams were all ass back then, most of those players don't even play anymore, bum ass teams, 2021 year = fraudulent.

Madrid had 8 teams, 4 of which were complete frauds, China was 25% of the teams out of 8 teams, only good team there was a 0 experience GenG, 8 teams, 8 teams, 8 teams, start of the year so nobody was good, fucking qck made a lan, 8 teams. This may be on the same level as lock in fraudulent wise bro come on now.

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first major: farmers tournament, beginning of the game
masters madrid: only 8 teams, start of the year

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I wont condone labeling the first masters every year to mickey mouse event. either get good and win it if its a mickey mouse or shut up

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kskm

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if there is a riot conducted mickey mouse event it was lock//in - everything else counts

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sure, the tourney was only 8 teams, but qualifying in the first place was half the struggle! Only 8 teams out of 44 teams made it? Are you delusional?

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bro the qualifiers were single elim so of you use that route then Madrid = lockin

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2 majors

reykjavik 21 and madrid hold the same weight as knights monthly gauntlet

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golden goose is more competitive than both

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Madrid is around the level of funhaver invit

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chronicles just got more trophies

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No way bro brought up Reykjavik
Is that when Jett had unlimited right clicks? Yeah you're clown

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kskm

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one cant bring up any title given the nerfs and buffs of the agents... he still has 2 in two different metas on two different roles

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arin2016

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Nah they can. EG's 2023 win was more valuable than every previous events combined. Because the meta was extremely balanced and it wasn't a total stomp from the winning team (reflecting the meta being balanced). Some people don't even want to take 2022 champs into account, and anything before that? Totally out of the conversation. Anything pre-2022 doesn't matter. That is the truth that everyone knows but refuses to admit.

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kskm

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u dont talk for anyone but ur own self lol.. thats just a cope take, if ur the best amongst whoever played at the time with whatever agents that were available to everyone - the win is valid. maybe it was a different game but it was the same for everyone

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Like I said man, you're a clown. Current Jett players would toss t0nz around like a ball in the old meta. They were frying in Jett back then, just like they are now. But unlike mr. privileged, those players didn't have the same environment to show their growth.

You're saying his 2021 was performance was solely him being talented, right? So why couldn't he do it after the nerfs? What happened in the 2 years where he sucked ass on Jett? Talent? Holy cope lmfao. s0n fans next level of delusional. 0% logic 100% hivemind. You're probably going to repeat your already debunked points, keep at it

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kskm

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name calling cause ur nervous ur online shit take got debunked lmao? i can link my anti-sen threads here if u want. he did it with whatever agents were good at the time with whoever opponents were available for EVERYONE at the time.. who is winning every year anyway? what logic is being used here to call him privileged lol -- how is it his fault if some of the good players of today were not available at that time.. now if some guy comes in the future and wins 4 titles in a row will it invalidate everyone else who won it when he wasnt around? ur just brain rot dumbest guy ive interacted on vlr

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Mayor of Yappington here, nobody cares buddy. Everyone knows you are a s0n glazer. The loss really messed you all up lmfao
Keep crying, we will never accept t0nz's fraudulent trophies.

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kskm

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mayor of yappington yet u wrote more sentences making 0 sense. "everyone" "nobody".. again u talk for nobody but ur own sorry ass lol

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arin2016

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s1n t0nz keke

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kskm

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https://www.vlr.gg/341118/tenz-luckiest-valorant-player-na

continue thread →

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Thats irrelevent, jett was broken but every body could play it, same goes for yay with chamber meta, yes agents were broken but they both were by far the best players on these agents anyway

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arin2016

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Yeah and everybody was not playing Valorant back then. Nobody cares about the aim shitfest Valorant was back in 2021. Doesn't matter how much s0n fans or floptic fans cry about it. 2023 is widely considered the best champs and it always will be. And anything pre-2022 is Jurassic and should be forgotten about.

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speaking facts

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dilla

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simply put. no.

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t0nz isn’t even Americas greatest

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wsgg

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chronicle clears him tbh

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laifu

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my guy tyson needs to be a 3 time masters winner before being respected as the goat

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I think both his trophies have really obvious holes in them.

He won the first ever masters in iceland and got mvp with the highest acs ever but no one really knew how to play the game yet. That SEN roster mainly relied on their experiance from other first person shooters to pull ahead of the pack. I dont think its a coincidence that as the year went on and people started understanding the game, SEN's results dwindled past this trophy.

He won his second ever masters in madrid playing very well on omen/flex but there is no way an 8 team tournament is anywhere close to being comprable to other masters events. The qualification process for madrid was really scuffed as well, with a single elem playoff format where u only need to win one match to get in the event. TenZ himself wasn't the star on this roster, it was zekken.

No goat of any sport has a two year long stint where they are repeatedly under performing and putting up terrible stats. Even back in 2021 you could argue for Cned or Nats being the mvp of that year in a way you couldnt with yay in 2022 or demon1 in 2023. This current iteration of TenZ isn't the best contoller player in world, thats karon, nor the best flex in the world, thats chronicle.

Winning anything at all in esports is hard and we should commend TenZ for what he has accomplished. He will be remembered as a great player, just not the greatest.

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unilarity

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w take
i think some people overglaze tenz for being the "face of valorant" and obv having those 2 trophies and it triggers other people (for various reasons)

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arin2016

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You said the same thing as me but explained it in greater detail. Unfortunately, s0n fans brain works in a "you like pancakes, so you dislike waffles" type beat. Don't waste your words on them and just say "s0n t0nz" and watch them mald

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no. not even close

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chronicle clears +chron can play anything

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egann

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nah chronicle having 3 trophies on 2 different teams is more impressive

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also two different roles

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Tonz a goat. Baaaaaaaaa

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Country_Roads

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OF COURSE HE IS! HE IS THE MOST TALENTED PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF COMPETATIVE ESPORTS

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spectre300

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Can we settle the debate once and for all
Aspas is the only goat

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reaper_rega08

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Is Tenz the greatest player ever in Valorant? NO.
Is he one of the greatest? Maybe.

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People don't like to admit but he definitely is. If he had an all rounded team like LEV or Fnatic he woulda won every trophy there is. No cyap.

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Chronicle clears flex on 2 diff teams

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YamiS

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tenz got so bored he decided to do controller to trophy and duelist to trophy. He should try initiator to trophy next.

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localkoolkid

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maybe he can wait for for a 4 team tournament to win next time

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bro forgot that he ghosted for 2 years straight inbetween

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GambleNats

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chronicle has

berlin: smokes
Lock/in: initiator