Talon was never good to start with

Look at their past record,
Never won against top 3 pacific teams
Always won close games against mid table teams like rrq and TS
You can't say now that they're bad cause they always been like this and any other team like ts or rrq would've been similar like talon.

Talon fans: but...but... fr0st said they do not care about seeding and is preparing for champs...!!!
TLN was always super inconsistent tbh and like u said, never good enough to beat the top 3