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it wasnt dominant bro. they barely won the finals and got shit on by GENG in uppers. it was also such a small tournament and the SEN vs TH game was so close too. LOUD also fluked into the playoffs with the 2 chinese teams, giving SEN a free win
I dont hate SEN lol, but there are so many reasons that I cant deny.
tbf PRX also had a sub for Tokyo, DRX and LOUD were at their lowest points, and TL made the event. I think it's disingenuous to mark such a stark difference between Tokyo and Shanghai tbh.
TH at Shanghai may have had a sub but it wasn't for their best player, unlike PRX. And PRX were the dominant #1 Asian team too.
Not saying FNC weren't dominant but I think the reasons you pointed out for why GEN.G isn't higher can easily be applied to FNC.
it wasnt like the FNC vs PRX match was close at all tho. Boaster literally he said he told his team to throw to avoid 13-0ing PRX on Lotus
Tokyo S: FNC
Tokyo competition: EG PRX (sub) NRG TL EDG
Tokyo asscheeks: DRX LOUD NAVI T1 FUT ASE
(remember this Tokyo TL choked a 12-7 to NRG or wouldve been top 4 and was also the only team to have beat FNATIC - they were in good form)
Shanghai S: GENG
Shanghai competition: TH (sub) G2 FPX
Shanghai asscheeks: 100T FUT FNC PRX EDG LEV T1 DRG
and remember that FNC almost always obliterated the competition teams (except for a few close maps to EG) while GENG had struggle matches to FPX and TH (for the first 3 maps of finals)
Yes of course it wasn't close PRX were playing with a Gekko onetrick streamer instead of the best player in Pacific lol.
TL EDG NRG EG were competitive but so was TH G2 100T and arguably FPX.
Also I edited my comment above for clarification.
I think LOUD could have beaten that FNC had they not slumped, considering they almost beat them at LOCKIN and then beat them at Champs.
DRX and NAVI I agree.
But also no team was gonna beat GEN.G at Shanghai except maybe FNC, so the same rule applies - there was maybe only 1 team at each event that could have beaten the winner.
FNC didn't exactly fall off, they had just won EMEA.
DRG FUT T1 are bad 100%.
Likewise ASE FUT T1 were bad at Tokyo as well.
If you're saying TL was good at Tokyo then PRX was also good at Shanghai considering they almost beat 100T to make top 4 and they had also beaten GEN.G heading into the tournament.
Also FNC had the advantage of starting in playoffs instead of groups at Tokyo, though obviously they would have made it past groups there's a possibility they lose a map or two.
I mean in the end I agree FNC Tokyo was more dominant than GEN.G Shanghai but I just don't see why Shanghai is so much lower than Tokyo considering the circumstances were almost the same.
idiot stfu. you started watching in 2024.
you do know that ENVY 2021/OPTIC 2022 is the exact same team and that NRG 2023 had 4/6 of the players
they are the 2nd best of all time only because LOUD didnt exist in 2021 while Envy was really good that year (#5 team of the year)
Im not talking about ENVY prime and NRG prime. im talking about the overall team of ENVY/OPTIC/NRG
ENVY = Yay Fns Marved Victor Crashies Chet
OPTC = Yay Fns Marved Victor Crashies Chet
NRG 23 = Ardiis Fns S0m Victor Crashies Chet
NRG 24 = Demon1 Fns S0m Marved Victor Crashies Ethan Chet
basically the same team and it was exact same for ENVY and OPTIC (the two orgs decided to merge in early 2022 or something similar to that)
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