Pakistanese come

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Anguibok

Seems you have a better ping on Dubai then on Singapore and then on Mumbai, if that's true, shouldn't you be part of MENA instead of SA ?

PS : if you can confirm my premises are good i would be glad

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maybe they play in SA because Pakistan is part of South Asia 🤔🤔🤔

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They are, but if Pakistanis people cant play against Indian player (157.68ms) since every event are online they should play with MENA player (35.50ms) plus India and Pakistan isnt in a good term. I admit language is an important factor and is usually my fav one, but when 2 country are about to throw at each other throat and cant play for ping reason... Well it's complicated.

If Pakistan and India got only a strong rivalry and 50ms I would say it's ok, but thats not the case so better put them with MENA to me

(Sources https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Lahore)

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thing is this is only a political level the players and pros across multiple sports are all friends and chill with each other

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yeah, player are not government chief, and usually people tend to not want war, but sadfully we have to take in account the madness of our own government (Macron is president of my country so I kinda well know they are a huge gad between our representant and people that is represented XD)

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yeah so ping to india for people in pakistan is 55-65ms depending on where u are
to bahrain it is 35-50 depending on isp and where you are again however geographically speaking it doesn't make sense for pakistan to be considered mena and be in SA val however india makes life extremely difficult in getting a visa for pakitanis and vice versa and the gaming culture in pakistan is something very new and recent however a lot of good talent in pakistan is being wasted due to these on going issues

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So basically :
Ping : Mena
Language : India
Visa : Mena

If we combine all the factor, what do you pref ?

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still would prefer SA realistically because the talent pool in mena is decent ig and not a lot of orgs in the middle east are looking to sign pros that aren't arabic speaking tbh

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unrelated but is Pakistanese a real word?

I always thought it's supposed to be Pakistani/Pakistanis

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yep

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what about pakistanian🔥🔥

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what about americanese????

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😹😹

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thatpower

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united statesian is better🔥🔥

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alr hoss o7

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you are correct lol

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I thought I'm tripping when I read the name of this thread

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I'm also a little shocked

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btw riot changed pakistan somewhat from SA to MENA or told players it would be better to play in MENA than SA however that isn't a fix

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Wait, Riot already moved Pakistan to MENA ?!

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no after years of telling them they said oh well we can't do anything play where your ping is less

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Dafuk

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Rip to our bois HSB, K1ng, ShooteR and co who never got a fair shot

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FireII

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ShooteR was goated bro

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yeah but trust k1Ng was the real goat of pakistan
also even though shooteR apparently had some indian family/ heritage of some sort he wasn't able to play in india with OGX when he was signed as the visa was never a possibility and played on 60 ish ping all tourney

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Yaar I swear, we need a cracked pro team from Pakistan. Would be sick.

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Bro you have Shazam the 🐐 and he knows

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bro anyone but shahz

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Bloody embarrassment

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anyone but him, he knows too much

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Kekw

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pakistanese xd

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Yeah they should in all honestly be part of MENA, it's basically impossible for pakistani players to get into any LANs they are a significant minority of the 'south asia' region, yet get basically no representation. + LANs are most likely in India so that makes travelling to them basically impossible due to visa stuff

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Do you know if people from Bangladesh have the same issues ?

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I don't know ngl, but politically Bangladesh has had a history of more Cordial relations with India, so maybe they wouldn't have similar issues. But Bangladesh ~~doesn't have the issue of representation as there are quite a few teams from there~~ has an issue with representation too, from what I've seen is that they have plenty of teams, but the south asian tier 2 league is just full of Indian orgs/players

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Thanks for your answer !

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Riot didn't pay attention to it for 2 years and after been calling out on twitter I heard they were doing smth to shift them to MENA. I haven't followed up on recent esports in my region since there's none to less dedicated orgs here.

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it's just sad that political problems with the indian government will mean pakistan may never get a chance to play this game I love, also I love my indian brothers surely both governments can do the same too

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Anguibok

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So mooveing to Mena would solve the problem you are pointing ?

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zear0

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if you want the game not to be affected by political issues, move to another country, there are many of them
I suggest Germany or France
Yes, there are many places where Valorant feels at ease
Believe me, the English language is very easy to learn, I have been studying it for 25 years, and it seems to be going well

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Bro I'm from pakistan but I split my time between the UK for uni and the middle east to come back home to family. I am talking about this from the perspective of these pros who may not have a lot of money and have never been given a chance on a salaried team long enough to make an earning. Just read everything and see the conversations that have been had

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zear0

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Do you work while studying?

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nope, I have done my fair share of pro sports at a lower level and a bit of real estate here and there

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zear0

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Well then I believe in you, that you will break into the eSports arena, you will be the best, you will succeed and everything will be fine

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SnorlaxEnjoyer

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bless man but I'd rather be the one developing the games then playing it

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zear0

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Believe me, there are plenty of programmers now and they study this specialty for years, I just develop a bot in my free time, but still, programming is a complicated matter

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SnorlaxEnjoyer

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Yeye I'm aware but that's why I'm trying to learn the trade as best as possible while I still am at uni so we gon see god willing I get to where I wanna be

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zear0

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Bro, I believe in you and you will succeed. Believe me, you will cope with all the difficulties and difficult decisions. You will become whoever you want to be

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Diebs

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pakistanese is the worst shit I've heard never type again dawg

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Anguibok

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English isnt my mother tongue and i'll continue messing with that language, lil sis.

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Pakistan has bigger problems than deciding which server they playing on

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Diebs

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that's true for every country if you think about it, video games is the least of concerns for any country unless you're saudi

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Aayan

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we are on vlr.gg, we are talking about valorant problems not how to fix a whole ass country lol

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Anguibok

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whataboutism at his peak.

We can talk about economy, religion and Baloch separatism but this is a val forum and thats not allowed to talk about this here

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unfortunately it won't get solved anytime soon we have a joint militia between the army and current ruling politcal parties (that are 100% corrupt) and there's no chance of getting it fixed unless all parties involved turn to dust so on the val forum we discuss valorant

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also just throwing this out there we pakistanis don't need to hear about the problems in our country that we are all very aware of and can't do anything about from someone who comes from a country that has a stat of 70% of people that are of european descent then again that's just me idk

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And that's supposed to be a burn?

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Arslan ash clears