New champs bundle changes

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https://x.com/ValorINTEL/status/1816518645130088940

EDIT: it was like this last year aswell!??! imo a 3-1 split is better but oh well

idk if there was a thread on this, but im going to give my 2 cents anyways

first of all, its the VCT CHAMPIONS bundle. Not the VCT lets give every org money bundle. the point of qualifying to champs (for teams that aren't going to win) is getting that huge bonus of skin sales. Lets say a team like Talon, if we use last year numbers they would make around 1.2mil in extra revenue even if they dont get a single map in champs.

secondly, I don't want to buy a bundle knowing some of my money is going to orgs like MIBR. I wanted to buy the bundle because i knew it would support the orgs who actually are good and deserve it. Not some org who won a total of like 4 maps in the whole year.

3rd, this really lowers the revenue from organization that qual to champs. If we use last year numbers, a organization who qualified to champs with the old rules would make around 500k more than an org that qualifies to champs with this years rules. Going off last years revenue, and org that quals to champs would get around 1.2mil. This year they would get around 660k while an org that doesn't qualify gets around 330k.

overall I think this is an L change, what are your thoughts?

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I never use the phantom so I don't even need to worry about indirectly supporting MIBR and FURIA

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number2_cNed_fan

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i use the phantom alot, I kinda wanted to buy it but now im conflicted

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Denjisideals

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I don't play the game so I don't need to worry about allat.

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DuD5K1S

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(teams that attend champs get more money)

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number2_cNed_fan

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i adressed that

Going off last years revenue, and org that quals to champs would get around 1.2mil. This year they would get around 660k while an org that doesn't qualify gets around 330k.

last year changes would get u 1.2mil more than other teams while this year changes gets u only 330k more than other teams

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DuD5K1S

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I could have sworn that this was the same system last year. maybe this article is talking about champs before franchising?

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number2_cNed_fan

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I don't remember it being like that, maybe I am wrong.
either way i think its a silly system. Orgs who qualed to champs should get significantly more money than orgs who dont

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DuD5K1S

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maybe 3 -1? i'm looking into finding evidence for last year btw, be back soon

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number2_cNed_fan

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aight, update me with what you find

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DuD5K1S

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP-jLkBCnsg&t=217s
its at 12:38
with that being said, still having like a 3-1 split would be sick

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number2_cNed_fan

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wow, i was never aware.

I think a 3-1 is way more fair aswell

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DuD5K1S

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I mean it doesn't really matter, because they're all getting paid by riot anyways, but its nice to be rewarded for performance aswell

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it supports the teams in the esport hows that bad?

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it supports that even if you don't qual to champs you get money so mediocre teams would not make effort to reach champs and just eat the money riot gives

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Harapan845

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ok so the teams that are bad need support too

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number2_cNed_fan

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it supports orgs like C9 who blow their whole bank account on 1 player then fail to pay his salary
Orgs like MIBR who had scandals of using riot money for their CS team (iirc)
orgs like BBL who don't pay their players salaries until after the season is over.

These "bad teams" can easily improve without needing this, the perfect examples are GENG and TH. They are succesfull because they dont do dumb decisions and ruin the organization

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Harapan845

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one problem with this is that esports are so volatile that the teams need support as fans maybe cant help etc

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number2_cNed_fan

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even so, GENG found Karon from RANKED. Literally RANKED

EG found Demon1 from tier 3

many teams picked up rising T2 talents

Riot already gives the teams who are franchised alot of money to help rebuild, I don't think this was necessary. But i am only a spectator so I don't know

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its truly shit how it works, c9 fucking snaked my king yay and mibr won't give frod (goated coach btw) any guys

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quite sure thats how it has been since franchising