Who Wins Part 2

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ShadowisBAD

Who Wins Part 2 , this time id try add The teams who would play against each other in champs in their own area

SEN vs TL
GMB vs NV
C9B vs ACE
100T vs Giants
Rise vs G2
Guild vs XSET
GENG vs FNC
SMB vs FaZe
TSM vs OBG
V1 vs Tenstar

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brimstone gaming

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ShadowisBAD

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sorry
legends and unstoppable forces are STRICTLY prohibited from entering these matchups

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TL
GMB
ACE
100T
Rise
XSET
FNC
Tough one, but i'm going with SMB
TSM
Tough one too, i think V1 would win

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tenstar and geng wins in corresponding games

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Tenstar it might be... but Gen.G i guess not

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geng did pretty good against 100t and c9b got 1 map against both, even though they threw a lot of rounds with braindead plays. and fnc are pretty bad rn i would say.

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kbkdark

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for this threws that i think FNC would win... but we'll only know when they play each other

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Azift

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Team Liquid (Very dangerous with Nivera)
Envy (Gambit have looked shaky recently)
Acend (C9B isn't on the same level imo, but we haven't seen them on an international level yet)
Giants (Giants is by far the best team not at Champions)
G2 (Although G2 has also looked shaky recently, I still think they outclass Rise)
Guild (Close matchup, Guild had better form in LCQ)
GenG (Fnatic has been losing to teams all over the place they shouldn't be, I hope they do better at Champions)
FaZe (SMB is terrible now)
TSM (Honestly wasn't sure on this one but don't know as much about OBG other than they don't match up well internationally)
Tenstar (Close matchup, Tenstar is in better form)

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LifeIsALie

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actually stupid if you feel 100t lose to giants or that Gambit lose to envy

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Azift

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100T is not good with the roster change, Giants would easily win. Giants only bad loss was to Acend, who is already above 100T. Yes during the previous Masters Acend and 100T would be around the same level, however following that event 100T has only gotten worse, and are nowhere near the same level they were before. I don't think this matchup would be a total blowout, but Giants should be above 100T at the moment.

Gambit vs Envy would be close but Gambit played terrible in their recent tournament, losing even 0-13 to Acend on one map and to LDN UTD. Yes this is based on one performance, but the only other recent match for Gambit was against Envy in the Masters final which was a while ago, and Envy was by no means far from winning. Envy also played with a newer roster, having limited practice with yay, so it would be expected that they would have improved with more practice by now.

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LifeIsALie

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ya dumbass really thinks that Gambit or Acend tryharded this tourney? My god bro pls stop with these shit takes.
Also 100t is going to change b0i out for sevvn anyways

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Azift

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Your logic is that pro teams didn't try. Genius.

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Yeah, you're the same guy who made a thread saying Rise cannot beat 100T.
These virtual matchups are predicted on current form. Form states that 100T have not been clicking as of late and Giants are doing better in their region and are easily top 5.

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LifeIsALie

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NO WAY TOP 5 LMFAO
We have ACE, Gambit, Liquid, Fnatic AND SmB even though they are not performing right now

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Fnatic do not look good right now, and even lost to Giants at Red Bull tourney
SMB have looked drastically worse since challengers 3 playoffs, and their players are leaving
Guild and G2 are going through roster rebuilds
Giants have pretty consistently beat every other decent team in EMEA you could argue for, so they are a definite 4th behind Acend, Gambit, and Liquid

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Azift

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Giants literally beat Fnatic, SMB is even worse.
I believe Giants is roughly 5th/6th in Europe right now.
Liquid, Gambit, Acend, Guild are above them (although Guild wont be considering roster changes)
And they are equal if not a bit better than G2 currently.

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HeyClassic

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Isn't Sevvn a development duelist player?

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lol

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how has gambit looked shaky???

if youre talking about the redbull tourney they had like 70-80 ping while other had 10-20, and also i dont think any of the team cared that much about the tourney

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Azift

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It's the only recent example of Gambit competing we have, and Envy was already on a similar level to them (as proven by Masters Berlin). So there really isn't any way to know who would win now, I'm just using the information available to me. Also, although the ping is a factor, it shouldn't impact performance to the level it did, and watching the games, most rounds were not being lost to things that are ping related, and were more tactical errors.

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LifeIsALie

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3-0 is not similar level LMFAO
From ur logic, Fnatic was similar to SEN at end of iceland
They also lost 13-11 and twice in ot which was better than envy lmfao

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Azift

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Fnatic was similar to SEN at the end of iceland? I never said they weren't...?

And 3-0 doesn't show that it was close, maps were 13-15, 11-13, 9-13. That's a close series... I can't believe you don't understand this.

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LifeIsALie

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My god wtf? Fnatic were close to SEN at end of iceland? LMAO NO fucking way bro . A 3-0 is a 3-0 . That is a clean slate. Fnatic were not close to SEN that time and nor is Envy close to gambit

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TL
GMB
ACE
100T
RISE
GUILD
FNC
IDK
TSM
cat ears team V1

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MilanTheMyth

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but cat ears guy out of v1 :(

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BatChest SEN BatChest
Tenz > >>>>S1mple

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SEN vs TL
GMB vs NV
C9B vs ACE
100T vs Giants
Rise vs G2
Guild vs XSET
GENG vs FNC
SMB vs FaZe
TSM vs OBG
V1 vs Tenstar

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not sure why c9b over acNed, but good list

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PoPanda

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purely because Vanity is one of the best at shutting down star players. He will have a whole tome of strats for a 'Jett Op Lead' team.

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Good point.

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Omg i like how no one thinks SEN will win against Team Liquid , i guess it would be the first ever match in which SEN would be considered underdogs coming out

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ShadowisBAD

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😳😌😌😓

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ShadowisBAD

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I mean they were underdogs in iceland even against FNATIC ,but then they beat FNATIC then it all changed

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Giannero

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They were underdogs against fnatic? After they went flawless in the whole tournament?

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ShadowisBAD

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they were underdogs against FNATIC BEFORE sen 2-0ed them

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Giannero

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Oh yeah, I forgot they had 2 matches

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RIP_BOZO

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Let me tell you they never were the underdogs coming into any tournament , be it Iceland, Berlin, or even in the upcoming champions and they still aren't underdogs. I feel like people might sleep on them due to recency bias. They are the favourites to win this Champs as well .

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ShadowisBAD

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theyre were favourites for berlin sure

but for iceland its just SEN fans who called them favourites everyone else said BR , EU

AND IN champs its clearly Not sentinels

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RIP_BOZO

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IN champs its clearly Not sentinels

Thats weird dude , no matter what people say its actually true they are the favourites , cmon man you support this team , have faith in them they have what it takes to be the best team in 2022 and win the first ever valorant major

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ShadowisBAD

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cmon man you support this team , have faith in them they have what it takes to be the best team in 2022 and win the first ever valorant major

dude my mindset is sentinels can beat and DESTROY everyone i have FULL faith in them
by me telling "theyre not favourites in champs" i meant that very very less ppl are telling SENTINELS are favourites and the whole vlr callin them washed so thats what i ment , imo theyre favourites but let vlr be vlr

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RIP_BOZO

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Dont listen to what others think of you, just have faith in your beliefs , as long as you yourself know your right .

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ShadowisBAD

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i really dont care a bout what others think bout me in vlr ANYmore , im just saying that according to the community , sentinels arent favourites

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shrado

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TL
GMB
ACE
Giants
Rise
Guild
FNC
FaZe
TSM
Tenstar

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V1 dominates tenstar, just like SQ would

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sq would get 26-0. just cause a team beat ur shitty team doesnt mean theyre good all of a sudden.

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SEN vs TL ( both Very good, and i Fans both team could be 50%)
ACE
100T
Rise
XSET
FNC
FaZe
TSM
V1