question about sen

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smthlikeyou11

SEN fans do u guys think u wouldve won madrid with pancada instead of zellsis?

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Bald_man

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nope
because zellsis fit well with the team with roles considering he's so versatile

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Xerulo

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Qualification is a question let alone winning.

#4

Reckoninqs

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sen would get dogged on

#5

mocaxoxo

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pancada went +14 against oxygen before he was benched
and won. and oxygen is an amazing team
johnqt is the true difference maker

not pancada or zellsis so yes i believe they would’ve won madrid either way

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Rei5

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Nope zellsis map 5 performance was a crucial factor

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Ausam

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They would not have won madrid. A huge reason sen won madrid was cause of their resilience, which they lacked when pancada was on the team last year. Sen's resilience comes from zellsis and sacy. They keep the team alive.

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AstroGalaxy

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No

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kanyefan4238173

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tenz would be initiator and maybe not qualify

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envyz

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fuck no, Zellsis is our midrounder and helps john midround a lot something Pancada can't do and he brings limitless energy, Pancada can't fill that role and Zellsis has proven he can hang he holds his own in the server and comes up big

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smthlikeyou11

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there are things pancada can do and zellsis cant tho
do u think SEN wouldve won with pancada's skillset?

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envyz

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Pancada is a very good fucking player on a individual level, on a team like SEN, they need a more flexible player like Zellsis who can play basically every agent and provide high energy with his great calling/midrounding. This is no shade to pancada he is an insane player mechanically far better than Zellsis.

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dort

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average sen dickrider

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envyz

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dort every single opinion you have will be voided. You are a NRG flair who just loves to hate on SEN flairs, tell your team to win some trophies then you can speak on SEN ok bud?

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both NRG and SEN have won trophies....

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envyz

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NRG as a organization has never won a VCT tournament + FNS won with Marved and Yay while Ethan won with EG, you can't flex another teams achievements as your own even if you have their players lol.

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groomer

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so if the whole SEN roster moves to a different org you would say the same for them?

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1mBor3d

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yes lmao optic won a trophy not nrg if the nrg team was the same as the optic team then yeah that would make sense but thats not the case

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envyz

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cuz SEN won 2 trophies, NRG didn't.

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1phnxe

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okay u fair for that

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WhoseTao

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What did NRG win btw, no troll I dont remember

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ihatewestjett

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NRG picked up the team but not their achievements

#9

michaelisupset

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no
the roster clearly works better with zellsis

#12

hemmy

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Obviously yes. People who say no are just diehard SEN/Zellsis fans

#14

InNOut_Burger

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zellsis has a better agent pool than pancada + pancada is clearly playing better because hes able to speak his native language and is more comfortable

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ShuGo

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pANcada was legitimately dogshit in SEN (still is in LOUD)

so they would've lost to GENG or somewhere in the Playoffs most likely

#18

AlexSMTx

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saying this after he single handedly carried LOUD first map is crazy

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Ballsamolee

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They would've lost to LEV or even 100T with pancada.

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groomer

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they would've made shanghai with pancada thats for sure

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1mBor3d

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no we would not be more successful with another smokes player when we already have 3 people who can play smokes agents

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sn4ke_gg

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I mean Pancada is better player so yeah

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Froggy0_0

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no we would have lost map 5 against geng

#32

Kirako

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maybe they would

maybe they wouldnt

but would they sell as much SEN bundles?

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

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bronzil_enjoyer

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hi dsgfan

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Ausam

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They wouldnt,i am 95% sure. During madrid the resilience that sen showed was cause of zellsis. Zellsis WANTED it and everyone on the team felt that.

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smthlikeyou11

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im pretty sure everyone wanted it lol
if not more than zellsis

#37

sussybaka

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No, they were just lucky that heretics and geng played poorly.
And seems like they will get free-pass to Champs, because of how bad the other americas teams are atm.
But, all I know is that heretics and geng won't let that happen again.