Ascension 2025 outcomes

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Note : If both ASC team goes to Champions, the one with better placement stays, the other plays Ascension
Note 2 : "TOP 8" refers to Stage 2 of each league starting in 2025

- 1 ASC team stays by reaching Champions
- 1 ASC goes down to Ascension and fails to win the spot
- 1 CL team goes up

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- 1 ASC team stays by reaching Champions
- 1 ASC goes down to Ascension and but wins the spot
- No CL teams goes up at all

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- 2 ASC team hits Top 8 but not qualified to Champions, so both plays in Ascension
- either 0/1/2 ASC teams wins the spot (so another case where no CL teams can go up)

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- 2 ASC team drops to CL by not reaching Top 8
- 2 CL teams guaranteed going up

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Imagine teams try hard the whole year and no one were good enough to ascended

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in 3 why wouldnt a CL team get promoted, regardless of the fact there is still going to be the Tournament for promotion in CL

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The tournament for promotion IS ascension

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If both the relegated teams reclaim their spots no cl team go up

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imagine being 1st in ur VCL but lose to a relegated team and didnt make ascension

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Yea, like it would feel like your whole season was for nothing. Playing against tier 1 talent the entire year gives you a huge edge.

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im dumb as hell so what happens if both asc teams make champs?

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bruhmphrey

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In the post it says the lower placing one has to do the ascension tournament

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Tryeue2

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i meant same placement at champs like both go 0-2 at groups

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DuD5K1S

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probs like round diffirential.
if all else fails it would be Bo1 head-to head (imagine)

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soonwookong

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wait does this mean we're probably gonna see bleed and m8s relegated or it's for the year after

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hesketh2

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next year, so if BLEED not finished Top 8 in Stage 2 2025 = they go back to Challengers for 2026 for example

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soonwookong

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right, thanks

but does this mean some leagues can have more teams than other leagues? wtf

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DuD5K1S

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on second thought, with the TPA they signed this year, G2, M8, and bleed might all get relegated after 2025

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soonwookong

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that makes sense, thanks for the addition

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DuD5K1S

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it will be for next season, bleed arent getting relegated this year

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bruhmphrey

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Next season, if they do not finish in the top 8 and/or qualify for Champions, they are auto relegated. Their result of this season will not affect them.

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Just making sure, the relegated team(s) have direct ticket to the ascension tournaments where they compete against other CL teams who won their regions. If they do not reach top8 they are sent back to challengers league of the region they came from. Am I understanding this correctly?

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I read it as straight to GF, not even ascension tournament. but I would prefer if it was the whole tournament.
and if they ascended team doesnt make playoffs, they dont go to ascension

#18

hesketh2

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Yeah, ASC teams can went from

Top 8 >> Goes to Ascension >> not winning Ascension > drops to Chall

Not Top 8 >> Chall directly

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Aielt

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I see thanks.

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wait what happened if both make it to champs??

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teilwal

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read the first sentence 😭

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Prathades

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I mean there's the possibility of both losing their first 2 matches or failing to make it to the playoff and placing in the same placement. Cuz during champs 2023, it's common for teams from the same region to be placed on the same placement during the champ group stage. Like Navi, Giants 9-12th place champs 2023 and PRX ZETA 9-12th place champs 2022

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Akukko

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can someone link the post please?

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DuD5K1S

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https://valorantesports.com/en-US/news/updates-to-valorants-path-to-pro-challengers-premier-and-ascension-for-the-2025-season
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https://www.vlr.gg/363225/riot-reveals-challengers-and-ascension-changes-for-2025

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i’m wondering what would happen if an ascension team won the first masters and then bomb out for the rest of the season and don’t make champs

surely they wouldn’t get relegated after winning an international