FNC 2023 or GenG 2024 ?

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alpine007

so which is the better team FNC 2023 or GenG 2024
FNC 2023 is hailed by many to be the best team to ever touch Valorant to date where they won 2 back-to-back international titles one of which was a masters.
GenG 2024 has made it to 2 masters grand finals in 2024(both in dominant fashion). but they choked in 1 final and therefore have won only 1 international title but the dominance is the same.

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GEN.G 2024 because APAC bias 🗿

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even though i love geng more fnatic is was comparitively the better team
the level of play in 2023 was just higher, and FNC was way more dominant

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real smth omg fix ur overpeeking shiet

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smthlikeyou11

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u should replace me ngl
PRX Everything

#5

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The level of play in 2023 was not higher. Remove those rose tinted glasses you have on and you'll actually see how much teams have improved from 2023

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smthlikeyou11

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the level of play in 2023 was DEFINITELY higher lol
in 2024 i feel like a lot of matches and a lot of rounds were won just solely based off of one team making several mistakes, whereas in 2023 there were less throws and just the competitive environment was an overall higher level than it is here in 2024.
you should randomly pick like 3 games from masters and champs events in 2023 and compare them to any random 3 games in madrid and shanghai and you will understand

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2023 meta was pretty ass and stale
There was just 1 comp in a ton of maps that everyone played so ofc it'd look "better"
2024 we atleast have different reasonable comps in a map (even ascent lmao) so obviously it'd look like it's full of mistakes (although I'd say it's only some teams that throw games too much it's not that terribly different from 2023)

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smthlikeyou11

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stale and bad meta does not coorelate to level of play
it might be more BORING to watch, but the caliber of play was definitely higher

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2024 meta is just raze + gekko every map. 2023 was way more fun to watch

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jimjam789

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saying the level of play has dropped is such an disingenuous statement , esp considering a lot of the stars and teams from last year have struggled to find success this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZhljnvCJng

this video is a pre good vid to show fnc as one of these kinds of teams

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smthlikeyou11

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i think the level of play is subjective per person
unless its REALLY obvious, I think you could make a case for both.
I alr gave my reasons why I thought 2023 had a higher level of play, teams just looked more well prepared and cooridinated

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paci0

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Actual yapper, it's called having a skye meta last year

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dort

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no one in their right mind thinks gengs run this year was impressive. 2nd place in an 8 team event with shitters is nothing to brag about.

shanghai was valid but still mid overall

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UkieVAL

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ok, but where was NRG in all of this... exactly (i know im a PRX fan and we didnt do good against 100 thieves but at least our team can make the international events lol)

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dort

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NRG will dominate those frauds in champs, mark my words

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UkieVAL

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ahem checks notes bili. bili.

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Warlordwibz

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NRG ~~will dominate~~ won't qualify. Fixed it for you.

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https://www.vlr.gg/220453/nrg-esports-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-lr3/?game=132730&tab=overview

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YeaUrMum

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Fr 😹😹😹 bait used to be believable
It took PRX to send daddy FNS back to NRG to make them any relevant KKKKKKKKKK

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sm0ke3

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ignore him, hes baiting or just fucked in the head

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UkieVAL

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its fun to talk to bait tho, makes good entertainment for the viewers of this thread lol <3

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kristof

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At this time last year, Fnatic had only lost three maps: two to LOUD and one to EG.

Meanwhile, Gen.G has struggled against FPX, Leviathan, and EDG

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hemmy

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They also went 3-3 in groups while Fnatic went 9-0. This shouldnt be a comparison imo

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alpine007

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fair enough. but if GenG win champs then GenG will be the best by just sheer results. RESULTS wise.

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Brimstan

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How is this even a question

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very_average_guy3

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FNC 2023 is hailed by many to be the best team to ever touch Valorant to date

Answered your own question

However time will tell if GenG matches up

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I would say GenG if they make top 2 in Champs, until then, FNC