Why ISO fix? | VLR.gg

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voovoovoo

I agree ISO needs to be fixed for Pro Play, it's too powerful if not entirely broken in Pro Play.
But, ISO is playable in ranked now(below immortal).
Reyna was the other way around, top pick for ranked but unplayable at the pro level, now Reyna is nerfed for ranked and ISO is playable.
How can Riot fix ISO while not making him obsolete again?

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ISO is playable in every rank hes literally broken.

Hes a top 2 character I promise hes getting nerfed sooner then later.

I still dont think he’ll be used in pro play besides icebox and maybe the new map. but thats about it.

both are playable in pro and ranked.

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His kit is kinda useless for him to entry other than E. I don't see people in lower ranks coordinating and utilizing him properly

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Shawn23

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his wall

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None of his kit says duelist, can't do anything for him or escape a situation

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Shawn23

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like i said icebox and potentially the new map. nothing about phnx says escape but he’s used sometimes.

and icebox is a map teams don’t even use a duelist on so it could be viable.

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Nah there's no way he'll find much use in pro play. ISO not having a way to create space and still having a shit kit outside of the shield will prevent him from finding use in pro play. I could see some Chinese teams picking him because they're basically playing ranked over there but that's about it.

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iso character is unfun to play and unfun to play against

i like i am the scum of the earth winning a gunfight i should never be winning with this iso character

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nobody___100

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fr, you shoot the head and he doesn't die
its fked

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bren worst nightmare

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Unfun to play at
Unfun to play agasint
Unfun to play with (Low teamplay)

Every agent since Fade have huge flaw in their Game-design. They have absolutely no inspiration, and that kinda sad.

I love team that made map, I love team that made VCT, I really think team that make champion is incompetent, they don't understand how to make a targetted nerf for proplay or for ranked, beside maybe Raze Nerf (I have no opinion on this one), I would revert everything since 8.0, Viper is already nerf by the mapool rotation and will even be nerf in the next mapool rotation when Icebox will be out, Skye is about to disappear from fuking her house Bind (100T/TH run Fade), she need her 2 flash back since Gekko and Fade are viable.

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Gekko is good?

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Anguibok

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After many and many changes, with vertical flash, they are a chance in 1 or 2 year we realise he is overpowered

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geospliced

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No but I'm saying the idea for the agent as a whole was innovative and interesting

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nobody___100

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yes, but iso deadlock clove all been mid. clove slightly less mid

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Yeah which is why I only mentioned Gekko lol

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iso is fine the way it is bc nobody will use him in pro play his kit is not good enough to make space

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nobody___100

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tf you mean, you can just dry peek op and live

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yeah if you know the team your going up against is reliant on the op or cypher/kj setups for certain rounds you can use iso and completely negate that with his shield or ult. I feel like iso will be picked to anti-strat teams who love the op like KangKang or something. His ults is very farmable too.

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nobody___100

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but if it negates sentinel util and ops it just ruins the defense half

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Honestly that's some Silver lobby shit. That would remind me of Life playing Clove on Icebox. Okay, so you're swinging into the enemy but you have no dash or satchel to prevent from getting traded. There's just no flexibility with ISO. I could see him being a niche pick (similar to the occasional Reyna on Icebox or the once in a blue moon Phoenix comp) but won't get much play.

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nobody___100

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the clear difference with reyna and iso is
reyna needs kills to activate util
iso's util now activates without kills

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voovoovoo

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that's just one ability, jett has dash and raze has satchels to dodge op, but his other kit is dogshit

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I still dont see iso getting picked in pro, the ult is still kinda shit, and the rest of his kit apart from the shield is half baked. In ranked tho, hes gonna be a demon

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Anguibok

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If that true Riot have an amazing talent to release broken agent that make ranked unplayable, but that are still not pickable in proplay

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voovoovoo

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The updated ult is the best one of his kit. You enter with a shield and 2 walls to cover you

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For real the ult makes much more space now

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SuperRoss

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picking iso is throwing i report anyone that picks iso and i make sure to let them know how much they suck

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SamBR

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How can Riot fix ISO

Delete

all problems solved

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Serath

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I like playing ISO, the immortal smurfs in my lobby starts malding in all chat cause they cant one tap me, and die.

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Shuyaa

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ISO can make waves in pro play if they rework is wall to function like harbour’s or if they replace it with a movement ability, his vulnerable ability can be useful right now if you combo it with nades/mollys to help clear space

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What kind of movement would you add. All the other agents have something to complement their mobility.