i just realized

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AMERICAS is super overrated for 2023.
EG and LOUD were great. NRG was decent in LOCK//IN and Tokyo, but fell off in Champs VERY significantly. KRU was 4th best, but lost to GIANTS 0-2.

AMERICAS: EG > LOUD > NRG > KRU
EMEA: FNC > FUT > NAVI > GIA

Whole Year Performance: FNATIC > EG & LOUD > FUT NAVI GIA NRG > KRU

the AMERICAS propaganda and brainwashing fooled me too.

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Mingu

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i heckin love tenz

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Fnatic carried this region last year.

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sentinelmain377

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I mean NAVI got top 3/top 4 in lockin
TL got top 5 in Tokyo
FUT got top 7/8 and NAVI was realistically top 7 in Champs 23

NAVI top 7 cuz NAVI was realistically better than BLG & FUT (lost 2 closest b2b series in history of valorant (13-15, 13-9, 12-14 & 13-11, 11-13, 11-13)) and those 2 super close series were against DRX (5th), and LOUD (3rd)

EMEA got carried by FNC, with NAVI FUT TL GIA being mid and rest being ass.
AMERICAS also just got mega carried by EG and LOUD, with NRG KRU being mid and rest being ass.

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So what's the argument? Americas had 2 consistent teams and emea had 1, which makes Americas overrated how??

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sentinelmain377

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my blud said consistent LMFAOOOOOOOOOO (could also mean consistently bad, but im assuming you mean consistently good)

EG: 9th-16th, 2nd, 1st
LOUD: 2nd, 7th-8th (they had a bye into playoffs, but bombed out), 3rd

not consistent for LOUD 100%. you could say EG consistent for 2nd half of the year tho ig.

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Yea...yea.. so how are they overrated when they have 2 teams carrying them

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no literally this guy is actually dumb as fuck

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sentinelmain377

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people say (not necessarily u) AMERICAS was wayyy better than EMEA and that the whole region was good in 2023

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Do you remember EMEA league last year? Kc,Heretics, koi, bbl,giants,vitality. Go to sliggy vods and re-watch Emea.

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Giants, Vitality were cooking bruh.
TH & KOI werent jokes and did cook a few things and get some nice wins.

S+: FNC
S: EG, LOUD
A: NAVI, FUT, NRG
B: TL, GIANTS
C: KRU, LEV, C9, VITALITY
D: TH, SEN, 100T, MIBR
F: KOI, BBL
Z: KC

For 2023, AMERICAS wasnt way better than EMEA and it is closer than a lot of people believe.

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EMEA is super overrated in 2024

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sentinelmain377

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ur biased. i need facts about teams

Madrid was just a first-time international experience for KC and TH (new and fresh talent players), so it was expected for them to go out quickly (still played better than LOUD tho, who snuck into playoffs with 2 chinese wins))

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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keep in mind that KC threw an 11-8 lead against PRX with Monyet

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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they also shat on TH

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sentinelmain377

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at least the whole PRX roster had international experience (still almost lost to an inexperienced-internationally team LMFAO)

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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except for Monyet at the time

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sentinelmain377

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????????
bro just straight up capping:
https://www.vlr.gg/167365/team-vitality-vs-global-esports-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16

plus I forgot to mention, TH had a sub lmfao (who TH started praccing with 3.5 weeks before the start of EMEA kickoff). Meanwhile, Monyet was practicing way before that time with PRX for APAC kickoff.

many ppl are biased and brainwashed tho. ur not the only victim dw.

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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they still lost to V0t0l0t0 keke

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u have a point or u just clowning on GE?

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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the only person I know from that Vitality was Twisten (RIP Twisten, I enjoyed every single clutch u did)

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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and also, weren't FNATIC supposed to go on a run in Shanghai?

FUT won against Aspas and friends, DRG, and FNC. That's it lol

TH had to rely on patitek, their sub, whose contract is expiring, who was the x factor of them making the grand finals (Wo0t also hard carried them)

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sentinelmain377

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?????????????????????????????????

what r u trying to say lmfao?

#24

7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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EMEA is still a 1 team region and it is NOT FNATIC

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rip twisten, went +24

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irrelevant point, Gambit didnt have any international exp in Berlin, they still won the event.

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sentinelmain377

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half or more than half the teams didnt have int exp lmfao. irrelevant for 2021

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EG had two matches of experience in lock in, demon1 wasnt there. EG placed 2nd and demon1 looked insane in tokyo

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sentinelmain377

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bro they have Ethan and that lock//in experience does count bruh

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one guy and two matches, ok

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sentinelmain377

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ur saying that one guy's significant international experience doesnt benefit the others at all?

continue thread →

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fut only won against T1 in champs, fut and giants were ass as well and navi was mid. The only reason they are there in those events is cuz they got an extra slot because of fnatic. You got to be the biggest Emea coper ive ever seen

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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W KC fan

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FUT and GIANTS I can slightly agree (still better than KRU (AMERICAS 4th) tho lmfao)

but NAVI wasnt ass bruh (unlucky group)
did u even watch NAVI vs DRX and NAVI vs LOUD (bangers btw)

the scores for NAVI vs DRX:
13-15 for DRX
13-9 for NAVI
12-14 for DRX

the scores for NAVI vs LOUD:
13-11 for NAVI
11-13 for LOUD
11-13 for LOUD

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+100 aura mr kc fan