if TH with a sub is basically top3/top4 and NAVI BARELY lost to TH in FULL roster in an important match
how TF is NAVI not in top 5/top 6 team conversation rn????
you cannot judge how a roster will perform internationally with their regional performance. and this tendency of you guys to bring in "with a sub" logic in everything as if the sub is a non-entity having little to no impact and the team would perform infinitely better with main roster is extremely childish. the notion that Team A > B and Team B > C doesn't always translates to Team A >> C has been proven wrong in many cases.