Can someone explain to me why some brazilian fans are overhyping him calling mwzera the best player ever to tuch the game?
Is he that good
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If you watch some clips of him or watch competitive matches/lives, you will understand why he is hyped so much. The main reason is for his aim and movement, in Brazil, he mastered a type of movement and shooting that we call "duar bala" (which means two bullets), he abuses the physics of the game to keep walking using the A and D and firing two bullets in the time interval in which the agent "stops" to change direction, so in the opponent's sights he is never stopped, and even so he is shooting at their heads. The second reason would be his skill with duelists, he was not portrayed in Valorant's First Class as the "Showstopper" for nothing, in the opinion of many he must be the best Raze rifler in the world (apart from Bunny with Raze + Judge) , that's why you must have seen many questioning the reason for putting him as Skye instead of a duelist, because as some Brazilians said here on the forum, Mwzera is a player that stands out amidst the chaos, which is precisely the Brazilian style: madness amidst gunfire and explosions. His problem is that he can be very "dumb" at times, this is a problem that puts many on a back foot in relation to his performance internationally. The players who left here said that 1v1 is much easier against TenZ than against Mwzera (precisely because of his movement), but TenZ is a MUCH smarter and experienced player in high level competition than Mwzera, consequently being smarter and at times more impactful.
TL;DR: Mwzera has a movement that no one in the world has shown yet (abusing the game's physics), introduced a shooting meta in Brazil that many had to adapt to be able to face him and even so most can't get 1v1 against him, His Raze/Reyna must be one of the best in the world.
i have a few questions regarding this that i'm genuinely curious about. it's not meant to be hate or like a roast or anything, just some things i want to know more about.
1) i looked into this shooting style people always talk about. he's minimizing the dead zone of the inaccuracy by just doing really tight counter strafes over and over again. this is cool but is clearly a tradeoff of first bullet accuracy in exchange for more mobility / making yourself harder to hit.
my question is, if this playstyle is genuinely the "superior" way of aiming that sets him apart from everyone else in brazil, why do you think nobody else bothers to adopt it? to me it seems like 99% of pros just stick to slower, more paced counter strafes that grant a more precise shot rather than trying to control the randomness.
look at NV yay for example, he's well known for his counter strafing / movement in gunfights but he doesn't push it to those extremes because it's more important for him to get the first bullet accuracy -- which are essential to him being the strongest statistical duelist at berlin, and other regional events
2) related to #1, why do the other brazilian teams not bother trying to learn this if it's such an incredible skill that mwzera only seems to have mastered? they are all pros, i'm sure if they thought it was that impressive they would sit down and grind out how to do it like him after a few months at least
3) if Mwzera is this incredible being that revolutionized his own style of rifling that cannot be matched by anyone else in the BR scene, why is his team always so lacking? I have never heard of a scene worship a player that fails to qualify to every relevant event when the time comes. is it really a matter of his team sucks, his coaches suck, it's not his fault
logically there's no reason for this to be the case though right? it's not like the other brazilian pros are incompetent or anything. tons of them are very mechanically talented, it makes no sense for them to be unable to grasp a movement mechanic.
from a logic standpoint it must mean that they just don't value it that much, because if they did there would be a serious widescale effort to learn the skill. and there is no magical force that is preventing them from learning how to do fast counter strafes with bursts between them
Exactly, this type of mechanics in the movement is intrinsic to how the player got used to moving the FPS games, they would have to abandon some fundamentals to master this skill, Mwzera and Jonn as well as cNed came from a game called “Zula”, curiously cNed also has a strange movement as well as Mw imo, lmao, there is something different about Zula that sent such good players to Valorant.
Some months ago i saw several people trying to understand what the "duas balas" was. There were some valorant pro's trying to explain the movement on youtube. They say that it is not that easy to learn after you already have your way of aiming/moving, he played a really strange fps before moving to valorant, i think it was called Zula, where you could aim and move maybe it was just natural to him to play like this.
I think its like CSGO pros that comes to valorant and keeps using this thing (you walk >>> and than click A before shooting, we call it "travar a mira" in brazil, i dont know the name of it in english), just because it does not harm their gameplay, even though you could only stop walking and than shooting in valorant.
Maybe new players will start playing like this in the future if it proves to be a better mechanic. Right now, they know that it confuses the other side, specially people that comes from CSGO, as they do not see the characters move like this in CSGO.
1) it's hard to adopt a new way of shooting when you have 10k hours doing the same thing over and over again, alot of brazilians do because they came from exotic fps
2) other brazilians do the same thing, specially with phantom.
3) GL sucks, that's why the team is always lacking. If the VCT were 1v1 mwzera would suceed but the team has other 4 players in it
1) it might be hard but it's just something you have to do as a professional player no? all of the counter strike pros that were heavy on spray control and crab walking had to unlearn all of that and change to a more burst focused style of play. as a pro player you force yourself to adapt and learn the optimal playstyle, no matter how difficult it is to do.
2) if they're doing this and yet they still struggle to compete mechanic wise against international competition (im thinking of havan liberty and sharks here) does it mean the players are just inferior or the playstyle is?
3) why did he stay on a team that sucks for a year if he and other organizations know his value as the "best of brazil"
1) agreed. The two bullets thing is a burst with quick counter strafe.
2)every team that played against brazilians made a lot of compliments about the aim, we suck in tatics and utility usage. Brazilians team can't play the true valorant yet. We only have aim and mechanics.
3) i ask myself the same thing
1) So, the thing is that it incorporates this movement along with the other existing ones in the game. His counter-strafe being fast is not the only feature, but his ability to adapt it to other movement styles in the game and also shooting styles. An example: in a 1v1 against any other professional player, most of them have the habit of giving slow counter-strafe and also squatting while spraying, Mwzera besides using the fastest counter-strafe, he fires while "walking", squats during combat and shoots using spray, often he just doesn't do a full counter-strafe (left-right), but pauses the agent and continues in the same direction, while randomizing his movement and shooting as he moves. That's the "style" he implemented here.
2) All players here can do this, but no one has mastered how Mwzera did. I'll use Heat as an example, he is one of the few in Brazil that doesn't completely use the "duar bala", but only in direct confrontations and medium-long distance, besides his counter-strafe is not fast like Mw's. Sacy also tried to adapt but couldn't, many here try to fit his style, but nobody mastered like him.
3) His team (Gamelanders Blue) has a serious problem with adaptation and tactics. In 2020, they completely dominated the scene and won virtually every tournament they competed in, but in 2021 several orgs decided to invest in creating "superteams" that can knock Gamelanders Blue off the "throne", that's how Furia, Team Vikings and a few other teams came about. When the year turned, many teams started to implement a more tactical style, abusing the utilities to "stop" the aggressive advance of Gamelanders, an example was the introduction of the Viper-Astra meta in the qualifiers for Iceland, where the more tactical teams (Vikings and Sharks) were able to completely stop their advance with the two agents, who were in the meta at the time. This continued throughout the year, with Gamelanders trying to find a comfort zone in the new meta, but never reaching 100% as in 2020. This was reflected in the results, so both Mwzera and Gamelanders themselves did not compete internationally yet.
I dont think that most brazillians think that he is the best player in the world. He was the best player in our region until the second masters and he had, before the first international tournament the best stats in the world, some people outside brazil thought that he was going to be a monster when in international stage, but never made it.
I think that in this forum is mostly trembolonarage calling him the best player in the world, most of us believe that he is one of our best players, if not the best, but i dont see people saying that he is still the best in the world.
Right now, most people are hyped because he is going to play for the first time in international stage, but in my opinion he is way out of his confort zone. He is going to sub for a team that needs a sova and he mostly plays raze. We saw him in skye, he had some great aiming moments, but his utility usage was awful.
Im hyped to see if he can learn the utility position until champions, i know that he has the potential to learn and the aim to play.
Sure, i just wished his first appearance in the international stage would be as raze and entry fragger, because its where he can shine the most, at least for now.
I dont know about aspas yet, in our domestic tournaments he played in a team that was imploding since the beginning, so i would like to see him play in a better and more organized team, that could set him up better. He is really good as second entry, he could play trading off kills after the first entry as he has great aiming and plays reyna. Maybe he can join VKS after champions.
I dont know if they should get aspas, as their problem does not seem to be getting great aimers (i think Furia as a collective has the best aim in BR). I think they have a really bad mentality, as KRU head coach said on reddit. Also, i see they needing a better igl, sometimes they rely a lot on aiming and looks like they are not thinking at all.
As the other kids on Furia, i hope aspas can get someone on his team that understand the things behind a tournament match, and know how to pass the knowledge ahead. Maybe saadhak has the will to do so, as he seems to be like a teacher for VKS, that why i imagined that the best path for him would be going to VKS.
DGzin is great and fulfill the role of awper though. Maybe - gtn - frz +dgzin +aspas ?
In my opinion Furia managed to meet Nozwer as an igl now, he's smart and understands the game well, it seems that Xand was only igl before because Nozwer didn't speak Portuguese well, but now he can. I wouldn't take Frz out of Vikings at all, he's the best brazilian support player imo, it would be -gtn +dgzin/aspas.
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