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#1
DSGFan

I don't get what the problem is with yay telling ghengsta to stop playing 2021 valorant in 2023. If you watch the optic/nrg behind the scenes clips, the team culture yay came from was being brutally honest about mistakes, because that's the way you fucking win majors. Nothing yay said in that clip was demeaning; it was a brutally honest problem.

If the bribe was true, that would be entirely indefensible. But let's think about this. Who in their right mind would be so stupid as to actually try to do that??? That discord screenshot means nothing. We need something more concrete to take that seriously. Like if this was serious, why the fuck would you include it in a "by the way" manner with a scrim clip being the highlight of the thread? Like what? I'm willing to accept that ghengsta is just a complete moron and that concrete evidence will surface, but until then it's just not likely.

And why are we listening to Steel's thoughts on this? Bro literally took bribes to blatantly throw in CS. Who is he to talk about any of this? I actually appreciate Steel's knowledge of the game and I find his casts informative and funny, but he is the last guy to talk on bribing issues.

tldr: yay did nothing wrong in the scrim clip, bribe accusation is missing evidence, and Steel should not be talking about bribes

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OkOkay
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who tf takes a picture of a call as evidence of bribery

#4
DSGFan
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exactly lmao

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Congo1
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https://suno.com/song/521629d6-208f-427e-8982-6dc35e26190d
This is evidence bruv

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DSGFan
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beat is actually kinda tight, but just how dedicated of a hater are you lmaooo

#31
Congo1
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https://suno.com/song/14807bac-8ecc-4d5a-957a-c27175026c9e

This one my favourite

And another for taylor swift fans
https://suno.com/song/a1409a5a-b6e6-4633-a966-1f5242500938

#33
DSGFan
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we reaching unprecedented levels of hating in 2024

#28
cartixuzi
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this ai shit getting crazy, that beat drop would be a hit in the dubstep era

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Uncleben
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I actually remember some behind the scenes from optic where yay straight up told his team they were playing dogshit after a loss, and clearly that wasn’t a problem for optic
I think yay didn’t really adapt to the culture on this new team

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DSGFan
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this is exactly what I'm talking about; cringe "oH mY fEeLiNGs" people don't understand what it takes to win

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BrotherMan
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if ppl believe in the bribe with that picture as evidence, then they have brain damage lol

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DSGFan
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I don't understand how people are like "this ends yay's career"

#7
Tooker
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Like if this was serious, why the fuck would you include it in a "by the way" manner with a scrim clip being the highlight of the thread?

I would be willing to bet that Ghengsta was just scrolling through logs to find something to shit on yay with and saw the msg, was reminded of the messages and decided to misconstrue the nature of the 10k comment. They both probably knew yay was joking about it, but ghengsta thought he could use it to make Yay look bad.

Don't have any evidence for that, just a gut feeling.

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DSGFan
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This is what I'm thinking, but for now I'm going to allow for the possibility that Ghengsta just doesn't understand how to handle something like this. We do need a statement from yay

#9
Tooker
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Nah, tbh Yay doesn't gain anything by commenting at this point. The overwhelming majority of T1 pros that have commented have supported yay. The only ones that haven't have already been against him. If you don't have any bias looking at the situation, yay looks pretty innocent.

If Ghengsta posts some actual shit or ocean confirms it, then maybe, but I don't think he gains anything right now.

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DSGFan
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I guess. I still feel it would be important to deny an outright bribery accusation

#11
Tooker
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Only people that give a shit about it rn are posters on VLR who think they've discovered a secret cabal of NA pros. Best to just let people forget imo.

#12
Lucrix
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that's what i just said lmao. glad im not the only one

#14
fawning
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if ghengsta was mad about yay losing his temper while being down 10-1 on a scrim with no good communication then motherfucker is petty as shit

#15
DSGFan
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actually; who holds onto such shit for a year lmao

#16
binbongpinpong
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did the coach say anything about it today?

#17
DSGFan
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he still hasn't said anything

#18
soonwookong
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he won't say anything he still needs a job

#19
DSGFan
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If it was true, I don't he needs to be scared of saying anything

#20
soonwookong
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no, he can say the truth but it doesn't mean he can prove it especially if its just spoken, whomever he supports he will get in deep shit

#21
Epicgamer69
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i mean... people argue about him just being harsh but he literally said "I'm throwing" and this was just in a scrim

that just screams toxic lmao

#22
DSGFan
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I agree that saying "i'm throwing" is toxic, but I feel dealing with a teammate who literally goes against the plan on his own explains the frustration a bit.

#23
livelovelaugh69
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did you people watch the clip? how did he go against the plan?

#25
DSGFan
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he committed to an execute when the plan was to fake, draw rotates, and leave an insert to flank defenders on the other site. Did you watch the clip?

#27
livelovelaugh69
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no one committed exalt was dogging mid as part of the plan. you can still midround. yay got mad there weren't 2 inserted when he asked for 1 or 2

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DSGFan
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I mean, we're talking about a guy who sova ulted two of his teammates in an official. I'd be pretty tilted with him overall. It definitely seems like he wasn't on the same page at times.

#32
livelovelaugh69
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genghsta is a shitter
yay is a little toxic

both things can be true

#29
manca
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u mind sending the clip thanks

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