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TSMC

do yall actually still think edg/china is good? that they would've qualified in any other region?
just off the top of my head, they're worse than teams like navi, drx, t1, and tl, putting them barely in contention for top 10.
im not saying they'll never be good, they've had less time--but they are cannon fodder rn

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ASTEROIDCHILD
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paper rex looked like absolute dog shit in that game, they starting playing to their level afterwards

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cboomer
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"paper rex looked bad when they lost, and good when they won"

thanks socrates

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ASTEROIDCHILD
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socrates is an apt description because he mainly toiled with idiots trying to explain basic concepts to them

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-morte-
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Yeah that's kinda what happens when you lose buddy

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Hynix
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edg is aight. enough to make some games at majors interesting, but yeah for madrid the chinese teams were simply out of place

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cboomer
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they are not worse than TL you nonce

#5
TSMC
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even if you take tl out of the equation they're still pretty dog for a top seed

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catmuncher27
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EDG are consistent top 6, teams like JDG TE FPX in champs or shanghai definitely show potential to at the very least not go winless. They are still the worst region but I dont think taking their spots is the move, especially if you consider viewership in china.

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TSMC
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im absolutely not saying to take their slots, but the overhype even after these results is real
edg were 6th last year (worse than drx at champs), but clearly aren't anymore

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catmuncher27
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They're probably a bit overhyped, however with pacific starting to catch up to the other regions (as a whole, drx were always good) with the top of pacific being so close, I can definitely see a possibility where China in champs or even shanghai could surprise a lot of people

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geospliced
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Maybe I'm being slightly petty here but their Champs placement was the same as DRX, not worse.

#16
ZekaTheGoat
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Yeah but they looked worse than drx when you actually watch the game yet everyone had them above drx in their end of the year team tier lists

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geospliced
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Personally I think they were on a similar level by the end of the year but I get where you're coming from.

#17
simo98
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Another Drx behavior

#11
beaver_man
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they are worse than NRG , lev, eg , g2

#13
GhostKing44
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lmao tried to sneak eg and g2 in there

#15
geospliced
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They're definitely the worst region at the moment, and EDG, like you said, is pretty lacking for a top seed. Regardless, I wouldn't count them out of top 10 contention because their international placements hold a decent amount of water (many have pointed this out already). Their Madrid exit was very disappointing but I think you can hardly blame them. LOUD was playing very well and they suffered a comeback from GenG.

To sum it up, I think you are correct in 90% of what you're saying but to call any of the top Chinese teams cannon-fodder is not the best way to describe them.

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trikecycle
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Wolves will put China back in the discussion

#19
TakoSaki
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WOLVESWIN

#21
Warlordwibz
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CN region currently is similar to the PRX situation at 2021 Masters Berlin that has Shiba in its roster, heavily lacking in International experience. They need to bootcamp in EMEA/NA and have offseason events playing outside of asia to get more grasp at international teams. EDG is fortunate team to bypass this obstacle that others haven't achieve yet.

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