Emea vs Amer trophies thread

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Uncleben

APAC - 0 😭
China - 0

EMEA - 5 (-lock-in tax)
Amer - 5 (+last 2 trophies buff + 2 champs trophies buff)

Amer > EMEA

EU (fnatic x2, ascend, fpx (majority eu players, Ukraine isn’t cis)
NA (Sen x2, optic, EG)
Cis (gambit)
Brazil (Loud)

Eu - 4(-lock-in tax)
NA - 4(more recent trophies buff)

NA > Eu

TLDR
NA clears

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Alexsei

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what is bro waffling about. enjoy the games instead of worrying about trophy count xD

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Sir_Johnny123

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If loud won lock in, we all know you would claim tf out of it

#5

Uncleben

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Yes, but it wouldn’t be as impressive as any other trophy.
Fnatic got to grand finals lock-in after beating sentinels (who didn’t even make playoffs in regionals), furia (no lans in 2023), 100t (didn’t make regional playoffs), and navi (grouped every lan in 2023)

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Rocky54

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Not impressive ? I was 32 teams single elimination and they come back from 3-11 what are you talking about just sucking na at this point and CIS is eu learn geography please

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Uncleben

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Can u read? Their win vs loud was great but they beat teams that never made any other lans or got grouped the entire way through

It’s a Mickey Mouse because every franchise team gets into the tourney without earning it, lower competiton

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Sir_Johnny123

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That was Fnatics first VCT lan as a team. They done the same as louds off season and swapped 2 players out. EXCUSE EXCUSE

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sad_gambit_fan

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and they won the next tournament dropping 1 map (eg fracture xD)
really dont get how u guys can shit on lock in but say madrid is competitive xDD when fnatic proved they were the best team the entire year and loud also went on to win americas and top 3 at champs

both events are kickoffs , unless sen maintain this form and place good at the next event this shouldnt be taken anymore prestigous than lock in

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beaver_man

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Says the British guy who claims African players 😭😭

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Uncleben

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More recent trophies are more impressive. Sentinels kickoff win is a lot more impressive than say gambits masters win in 2021

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Rocky54

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CIS IS EU 😹😹 learn geography buddy

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dayyaan1

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EU and CIS are both in EMEA but diff in val like BR is in AMER but is diff than NA

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Rocky54

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Ngl I think you slow

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aspect1

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Cis is in EU but Brazil is not in NA. NA brain

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sentinelmain377

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LOCK//IN is = to madrid
both were kickoffs

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VI0LENCE

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U are not comparing a tournament with swiss stage and lower bracket with lock in, right?

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sentinelmain377

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thing is
FNC went on to win the next tournament
proving it wasnt a fluke

unless SEN /GENG can prove themselves next tournament
this tournament is a mickey mouse

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Al-Mawsil

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Prx with something would’ve won Tokyo

#17

sad_gambit_fan

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matchups make games
fnc rolled prx and eg but lost to loud
and loud lost to prx and eg
if fnc vs prx happened at tokyo fnc would have rolled them (forgot the 12-0 half on lotus?)

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Al-Mawsil

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ik the truth, anyways emea not doing anything this year so I don't blame u for speculating and enjoying the past with such a shit future waiting ahead

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GKeepItReal

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According to who? you? nice bro.

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Al-Mawsil

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just watch

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GKeepItReal

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JuSt wAtCh

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Al-Mawsil

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👀🫵

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uwukitten

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loud 13-0d EG on pearl yet EG beat them several times afterwards

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asdfgh

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hahahahaha

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Ultia

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Your take is weird.

Madrid had an objectively more competitive format than Lock/in. You can be upset with how KickOff qualification wasn’t double elim but that doesn’t take away from Madrid as a tournament format itself. I’ll take Swiss Groups and Double Elim over Single Elim without Seeding every day of the week.

Future tournament performances also don’t reinforce past success/failures because teams can both improve or fall apart over time. It’s like saying Tokyo FNC win was a “fluke” because they didn’t win Champs. “Proving whether fluke or not” narrative is garbage. The only way to make sure something is competitively sound is through format, not by reinforcing your bias.

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Uncleben

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I explained in post #5
Also kickoff is more recent so it’s more impressive

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asdfgh

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if emea gets a "lock in tax" NA gets a reykjavik tax,im taking lock in over that plumber fest any day

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sad_gambit_fan

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fpx beat optic in the very next event aswell

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan

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+1 my fellow shitmericas fan has no idea what hes talking about

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Revlo

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shitmea gets a flukyo tax, PRX without something, EG gets demon1 his visa last minute and has to practice without him.

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asdfgh

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then america gets 2022 reykjavik tax🤝
what a massive nerf for eg the 1 player who can just run it down and rely on his aim cant practice with them for a couple days
if that and have fun merchants missing something is a valid reason then is emea not having fpx or derke

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azureblade101

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what a massive nerf for eg the 1 player who can just run it down and rely on his aim cant practice with them for a couple days

actual braindead

#29

asdfgh

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if u think eg not wining was because their star duelist couldnt prac with them for a couple of days ur actually fucking stupid,he was still there he just arrived late

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sad_gambit_fan

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yep ur right with smth there they wouldnt have been down 12-0d on lotus and 12-3d on bind
and yep eg would have not have lost 1-5d to fnatic if demon1 was there for 2 days of prac

its def as impactful as FNATIC not having derke and braveaf and whole of FPX (winners of emea 13-0ing fnc) not being there

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smthlikeyou11

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Region wars is just dumb
people always find some stuff to argue about because they dont get interaction IRL
just enjoy the game

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Conut

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Acend fluke so u can take that off

#36

GKeepItReal

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Call us when New Zealand has a team lil bro

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Conut

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Why would new zealand need a team bro we have a total of 4 players. riot doesnt even care abt our scene anyways

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aspect1

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NA gets iceland tax -2 trophies, Sen plumber win doesnt count and Fpx owns optic just couldnt play bc of the war.

EU>>>>NA

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PooFaceCe

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Americas won both the more competitive Champs.

The rest doesn't even need to be said