APAC - 0 đ
China - 0
EMEA - 5 (-lock-in tax)
Amer - 5 (+last 2 trophies buff + 2 champs trophies buff)
Amer > EMEA
EU (fnatic x2, ascend, fpx (majority eu players, Ukraine isnât cis)
NA (Sen x2, optic, EG)
Cis (gambit)
Brazil (Loud)
Eu - 4(-lock-in tax)
NA - 4(more recent trophies buff)
NA > Eu
TLDR
NA clears
Sir_Johnny123 [#3]If loud won lock in, we all know you would claim tf out of it
Yes, but it wouldnât be as impressive as any other trophy.
Fnatic got to grand finals lock-in after beating sentinels (who didnât even make playoffs in regionals), furia (no lans in 2023), 100t (didnât make regional playoffs), and navi (grouped every lan in 2023)
Sir_Johnny123 [#3]If loud won lock in, we all know you would claim tf out of it
Says the British guy who claims African players đđ
sentinelmain377 [#7]LOCK//IN is = to madrid
both were kickoffs
U are not comparing a tournament with swiss stage and lower bracket with lock in, right?
sentinelmain377 [#7]LOCK//IN is = to madrid
both were kickoffs
I explained in post #5
Also kickoff is more recent so itâs more impressive
Uncleben [#5]Yes, but it wouldnât be as impressive as any other trophy.
Fnatic got to grand finals lock-in after beating sentinels (who didnât even make playoffs in regionals), furia (no lans in 2023), 100t (didnât make regional playoffs), and navi (grouped every lan in 2023)
Not impressive ? I was 32 teams single elimination and they come back from 3-11 what are you talking about just sucking na at this point and CIS is eu learn geography please
VI0LENCE [#9]U are not comparing a tournament with swiss stage and lower bracket with lock in, right?
thing is
FNC went on to win the next tournament
proving it wasnt a fluke
unless SEN /GENG can prove themselves next tournament
this tournament is a mickey mouse
Rocky54 [#11]Not impressive ? I was 32 teams single elimination and they come back from 3-11 what are you talking about just sucking na at this point and CIS is eu learn geography please
Can u read? Their win vs loud was great but they beat teams that never made any other lans or got grouped the entire way through
Itâs a Mickey Mouse because every franchise team gets into the tourney without earning it, lower competiton
sentinelmain377 [#12]thing is
FNC went on to win the next tournament
proving it wasnt a flukeunless SEN /GENG can prove themselves next tournament
this tournament is a mickey mouse
Prx with something wouldâve won Tokyo
Uncleben [#5]Yes, but it wouldnât be as impressive as any other trophy.
Fnatic got to grand finals lock-in after beating sentinels (who didnât even make playoffs in regionals), furia (no lans in 2023), 100t (didnât make regional playoffs), and navi (grouped every lan in 2023)
and they won the next tournament dropping 1 map (eg fracture xD)
really dont get how u guys can shit on lock in but say madrid is competitive xDD when fnatic proved they were the best team the entire year and loud also went on to win americas and top 3 at champs
both events are kickoffs , unless sen maintain this form and place good at the next event this shouldnt be taken anymore prestigous than lock in
Al-Mawsil [#15]Prx with something wouldâve won Tokyo
matchups make games
fnc rolled prx and eg but lost to loud
and loud lost to prx and eg
if fnc vs prx happened at tokyo fnc would have rolled them (forgot the 12-0 half on lotus?)
asdfgh [#13]if emea gets a "lock in tax" NA gets a reykjavik tax,im taking lock in over that plumber fest any day
fpx beat optic in the very next event aswell
asdfgh [#13]if emea gets a "lock in tax" NA gets a reykjavik tax,im taking lock in over that plumber fest any day
+1 my fellow shitmericas fan has no idea what hes talking about
Uncleben [#14]Can u read? Their win vs loud was great but they beat teams that never made any other lans or got grouped the entire way through
Itâs a Mickey Mouse because every franchise team gets into the tourney without earning it, lower competiton
That was Fnatics first VCT lan as a team. They done the same as louds off season and swapped 2 players out. EXCUSE EXCUSE
asdfgh [#13]if emea gets a "lock in tax" NA gets a reykjavik tax,im taking lock in over that plumber fest any day
shitmea gets a flukyo tax, PRX without something, EG gets demon1 his visa last minute and has to practice without him.
Rocky54 [#6]CIS IS EU đčđč learn geography buddy
EU and CIS are both in EMEA but diff in val like BR is in AMER but is diff than NA
Revlo [#23]shitmea gets a flukyo tax, PRX without something, EG gets demon1 his visa last minute and has to practice without him.
then america gets 2022 reykjavik taxđ€
what a massive nerf for eg the 1 player who can just run it down and rely on his aim cant practice with them for a couple days
if that and have fun merchants missing something is a valid reason then is emea not having fpx or derke
dayyaan1 [#24]EU and CIS are both in EMEA but diff in val like BR is in AMER but is diff than NA
Ngl I think you slow
Revlo [#23]shitmea gets a flukyo tax, PRX without something, EG gets demon1 his visa last minute and has to practice without him.
yep ur right with smth there they wouldnt have been down 12-0d on lotus and 12-3d on bind
and yep eg would have not have lost 1-5d to fnatic if demon1 was there for 2 days of prac
its def as impactful as FNATIC not having derke and braveaf and whole of FPX (winners of emea 13-0ing fnc) not being there
asdfgh [#25]then america gets 2022 reykjavik taxđ€
what a massive nerf for eg the 1 player who can just run it down and rely on his aim cant practice with them for a couple days
if that and have fun merchants missing something is a valid reason then is emea not having fpx or derke
what a massive nerf for eg the 1 player who can just run it down and rely on his aim cant practice with them for a couple days
actual braindead
azureblade101 [#28]what a massive nerf for eg the 1 player who can just run it down and rely on his aim cant practice with them for a couple days
actual braindead
if u think eg not wining was because their star duelist couldnt prac with them for a couple of days ur actually fucking stupid,he was still there he just arrived late
sentinelmain377 [#12]thing is
FNC went on to win the next tournament
proving it wasnt a flukeunless SEN /GENG can prove themselves next tournament
this tournament is a mickey mouse
Your take is weird.
Madrid had an objectively more competitive format than Lock/in. You can be upset with how KickOff qualification wasnât double elim but that doesnât take away from Madrid as a tournament format itself. Iâll take Swiss Groups and Double Elim over Single Elim without Seeding every day of the week.
Future tournament performances also donât reinforce past success/failures because teams can both improve or fall apart over time. Itâs like saying Tokyo FNC win was a âflukeâ because they didnât win Champs. âProving whether fluke or notâ narrative is garbage. The only way to make sure something is competitively sound is through format, not by reinforcing your bias.
sad_gambit_fan [#17]matchups make games
fnc rolled prx and eg but lost to loud
and loud lost to prx and eg
if fnc vs prx happened at tokyo fnc would have rolled them (forgot the 12-0 half on lotus?)
ik the truth, anyways emea not doing anything this year so I don't blame u for speculating and enjoying the past with such a shit future waiting ahead
Al-Mawsil [#31]ik the truth, anyways emea not doing anything this year so I don't blame u for speculating and enjoying the past with such a shit future waiting ahead
According to who? you? nice bro.
dayyaan1 [#24]EU and CIS are both in EMEA but diff in val like BR is in AMER but is diff than NA
Cis is in EU but Brazil is not in NA. NA brain
GKeepItReal [#36]Call us when New Zealand has a team lil bro
Why would new zealand need a team bro we have a total of 4 players. riot doesnt even care abt our scene anyways
sad_gambit_fan [#17]matchups make games
fnc rolled prx and eg but lost to loud
and loud lost to prx and eg
if fnc vs prx happened at tokyo fnc would have rolled them (forgot the 12-0 half on lotus?)
loud 13-0d EG on pearl yet EG beat them several times afterwards
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