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y0y or botssi ?
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put a good player on a bad team and that player will look bad, tenz, texture, yay, trent etc (although there are a few exceptions, there are always exceptions) yay is still a good player, a few missed shots or whiffs or few bad games does not discredit him dominating an entire year at the top of tier 1 valorant meanwhile the best thing skrossi did was top frag against a few pisslow pacific "tier 1" teams.
your downplaying ur goat here, cned never "fell off" his team just didnt too hot and that goes for yay too, ill say it again if ur team is shit then ur performance will keep getting shittier, you cannot farm in pacific or na tier 2 if ur entire team is in just chaos and its not the team in question is bad, the environment and synergy around the team is just bad, they arent comfortable with each other and when shit like that happens its over, no matter how hard u try to frag (especially on an entirely new role in the team like yay). TenZ said it in the press conference today that whenever ur team is going downhill or has bad environment then their individuals and their performance will also start of decline and ofc he was talking with personal experience, you need to understand that bleed as a team was so far super bad if not the worst (even worse than TL at start of last year or as bad as dfm)
I'll reword it then, cNed peaked in 2021 with op Jett. Yay peaked in 2022 with op chamber.
You can't even go back to your prime, thats why both "fell off". But some players (like nAts) are still top tier players vs cNed and yay don't have the same longevity.
adding to that, cNed and NaVi would have done good last year if Ange1 didn't start throwing after lock in.
"cNed and NaVi would have done good last year if Ange1 didn't start throwing after lock in." that's exactly my point here, it's a team game and you cannot always be individually good if your team is just bad and also nAts really isn't good rn I mean he isn't bad but he isn't anything to write home about he's in the same condition as cNed, he was good once but that was gambit and now he's in a TL that look like a team without an identity and way too many ideas for their own good. Yay hasn't necessarily fallen off, he is still the same guy who dominated 2022 and if he gets someone to bring back his confidence and the team finally decides to play completely around yay then he can do way better than 2023 and this year so far but it all depends on if bleed management decides to still keep him on a flex role or not
edit : I'm not even a fan of yay but this much hate is uncalled for and comparing THE best player of one of the best teams of all time to skrossi who has never achieved anything internationally is just stupid lmfao
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