why i dont take val esports seriously

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bladee666

everyone knows we're sort of watching subpar t2 competition even in the "t1" because the best players are still playing cs2
every tournaments feels like a mickey mouse tournament

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meadows

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No one cares buddy

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ct_fd_str

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bro thinks he is the main character💀

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bingbongbing123

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I heckin love Cheater Strike 2

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Selex

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Said the brain damaged fan.

It's been more than 3 years. This sort of logic doesn't apply anymore. Valorant and CS are NOT the same game. If all of the CS talent switched over right this moment, do you know what would happen? The vast majority of them would get shit on because of all the differences and how much valorant has evolved in the last couple of years. Sure, some might be able to adapt pretty quickly but most wouldn't and might not even be able to in the long run.

The "best players" are playing Valorant right now in T1/T2.

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Charism

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Exactly, even CS players themselves say that Valorant is a harder game. The literally infinite possibilities to do the same thing keeps the game ever evolving.

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Valorant is def not harder although I prefer watching Val esport by far

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SamBR

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great point

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bladee666

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you're coping bro
if all of the cs talent switched over, they'd get shit on by val pros until they learn the game and they'd get better than the current t1 valorant simply because cs2 pros' ceiling is higher given how harder it is to be a t1 pro in cs2 due to competition, playerbase, and the fact the game is 30 years old
grind doesn't matter as much as you think, and given how similar the two games play, they'd only need to adapt and not learn a whole different skillset
a player like niko or donk is unironically miles ahead of a player like aspas

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Nachtel

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bro by that logic tarik should be the best valorant player itw rn

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bladee666

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do you really think he wouldnt if that was 2016-2019?

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Nachtel

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no lol

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bladee666

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also, just look at benjyfishy
genetics exist, whether you want it or not, and people who are good at a certain competition, if there is another competition close enough, they will be also good if they're dedicated or whatever
most pros have been pros in many games and their ceiling were closes in these many games, however, in val, cs t2-t3 in na is somehow good? lol you wish

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SmartPerson

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who

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IsaaaValorant

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ur best players are getting cleared by a 18 year old with no manners and your goat is a 1.1 rating bum

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Itsover

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Donk just turned 17, he's not some 18yo boomer. Also p0mple is not the goat and ZywOo is doing just fine.

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FNC_Ajay

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Yeah it's like
T2 EMEA vs T1 Rest of the world

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KyLZi

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if thats the case then CS is T1 emea vs T2 everywhere else. 80% of that game's population is EMEA LOLOLOL

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ShuGo

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Riot’s Games are simply the superior and harder games

The Players of Valorant and League are superior to the Players of CS:GO and Dota 2

EMEA shitters are just getting angry they aren’t that good in games people actually care about

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Valorant is kid game compared to CS, especially when it comes to mechanics. Valorant would be harder than CS only if it was complete copy of CS in terms of mechanics and darker graphics but with added abilities, simply said imagine CSGO with Valorant agents and abilities. Only in that case Valorant would be harder than CS.

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Cacachocolat

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'Aren't that good' - region with the most trophies and while being nerfed by the war.

Yep, USA IQ.

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GKeepItReal

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Nah bro you can't be serious, Dota 2 is way harder than LoL.

LoL is casual as fuck.

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ShuGo

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6.4 Million (without Chinese views) - https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/2023-world-championship

1.4 Million - https://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-2023

Higher interaction = Higher talent pool

Dota 2 is not that hard, there's a reason why China left the game to try the harder game aka League, numbers don't lie

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KyLZi

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EMEA is the only region that really cares about pro CS. that's like me boasting about Americans being the best at American football. LOL

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Cacachocolat

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That's because Mericans were so shit at CS they had to quit.

They won like what? 1 major?

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KyLZi

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we were playing cod and halo on consoles and that's just facts

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Danny

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I want to romanticize and enjoy CS2 but it’s just a sad game especially for NA

I look at the pro play and every team is bad and half european. Most of the orgs are gone

I tried to play premier, I’m 20.5k elo, 3 games in a row blatant antiaim, aimbot, and bhop scripts on both sides, just hvh.

Csgo used to be the best fps of all time. Now it’s just trash and depressing

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TheAceGamer30

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Bladee is trash

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Vegaaa

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Idk cs players are crazy and all but if theres so many good cs players who arent making top dollar in, why dont they just go to val for the money? Clearly they either arent good enough in general, or just cant play val good enough

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doesnt matter val is more entertaining to watch (and play) than cs2