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INDIANS COME

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#1
CoCloudy

Why do ya'll love hating on your only indian representation in franchise?
Whats the point of being a fan of a team if you cant handle them when they go through rough times..

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azureblade101
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cuz the one time india gets represented, the org completely fucks it up. TWICE

completely understandable for the fans

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CoCloudy
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When have you ever seen an org be successful for every year?
Also its like you think they are purposely screwing everything up
Rushindra keeps investing into the org because he really wants it to succeed
Clearly they are trying their best yet their only support is just shitting all over it

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ken_6464
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brother we dont care if u loose 13-0 ever map but do it with an indian team dont waste money importing random eu players to represent us then pull up with the worst comps like just viper on bind ???
it would be so much better with a 1-2 imports and 3-4 indian players that way we actually grow the scene in india cuz players look up to someone and we have more orgs build up our tier 2-3 scene

we want ge to do well we want them to represent india and do it well not have indian banner and 4 non indian players
we have players like deathmaker who absolutely clear polvi and a lot of other duelists in apac league
we want them to represent us cuz they are our nations talent not europian no hate to polvi of course hes good

#48
simo98
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Thats will be another riot and another fans val problem like DFM bro
U literally bring another nepotism org

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CoCloudy
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This is exactly why
They have such a difficult job of trying to make everyone happy
When they have a 5 man indian roster people will shit on them for being the worst in the league
and if they try something new by getting imports and trying to create a competitive team they get shit on either way
And its not gonna help when their entire fanbase just criticises their every decision

#75
Dexter_Val0r4nt
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i believe GE management is just absolute dogshit...there r prolly a couple of players they could pick up frm tier 2 + 1 or 2 good imports who could bring out their full potential...so investment in better management would b a greater idea?

#72
Al-Mawsil
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deathmaker does not clear polvi

#8
jmssucksatvalorant
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lets use actual sports as an example.

Tottenham Hotspurs. They had 2 good players in Harry Kane and Heungmin Son.
They looked alright during their run with them, but only to be 8th in the Premier League.

Detroit Pistons. They pick up great talent in Cade Cunningham, Jaden Ivey etc.
They have great potential, but still bottom of the Eastern Conference.

We hear their fans revolting to the org to do this, to do that, but all we hear from the orgs is "trust the process".
trust the process. thats it. thats all fans need to understand. Its literally the second year of franchising. GE being franchised shows that Riot Games trusts what GE is going to cook up, even if results take longer than usual.

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zhongZHI
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lmfao cs scandal and night kid on ge always going like -14. gotta feel bad. they have the potential cuz like china fat ass population

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FireII
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lets be honest, GE does a pretty horrible job at representing India -- what do you expect from an org who is trying to rep their country, but only use 1 indian player, and then still fail to find success even going international

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NexusNomad
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Because esports orgs are already going through heavy losses including the successful ones. At the end of the day GE is a business, they wouldn't spend money on something they don't believe in. Nobody including the players believe that they will win on international stage.
You think he has unlimited cash flow? Sure the indian scene might not develop but I wouldn't go bankrupt to nurture the scene, clearly there should be a better way other than the org going bankrupt

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bruddah
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they dont rep us.

#6
Typer
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Ask urself if you're okay with aus org representing aus with no aus players or one

#9
canyon
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there is not even 1 T1 player in India 😭 all are bots

#13
Typer
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Don't be like this guy.

#15
canyon
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1 upvote; message sent 1 second ago
stop upvoting yourself saar plz saar dont spam this forum saar with GE saar

#40
Typer
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why do I care upvotes? some might agree with , some not so idc at all.

#30
ALoKi007
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Just ignore that shit... He just hates India that's all 😂

#31
zxcvb23
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Jaane de chutiya hai

#10
jmssucksatvalorant
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if a filipino org chose to represent us and have no filipinos in the team, imma still support them. Coz even if the team doesnt show results, im still trusting them the whole way through

#12
Typer
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yeah not everyone wont be like you.

#19
jmssucksatvalorant
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i beg to differ. constantly barraging an org with hateful shit isnt gonna magically sprout a new team

#43
Typer
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i don't hate the org nor support. i just hate how the management is, they should give some exp to current Indian players so that some players might shine or try harder for the spot.

#49
jmssucksatvalorant
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Management is part of the org. and who are the 5 best indian players that can show glimpses of improvement or growth in the future?

#51
Typer
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I don't know dude. but they should give some experience , do trails or scrims. u cant expect growth in Indian scene with zero chances. look at OCE

#52
jmssucksatvalorant
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OCE? OCE has shown more growth than India. autumn? now in FPX. pl1xx? now in Wolves Esports. How has 2 non-chinese speaking players managed to get into franchising and showcase great performance? What has India given to the valorant scene? SkRossi? in T2. Lightningfast, always middle of the pack in his team.

#53
Typer
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bro why are u not getting my point? are u that alone in life to have a convo? I'm just saying GE needs to start giving chances to Indian players have some experience and improve the region. pl1xx played in Soniqs while they're on NA and Autumn got exposer from Indian roster.

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jmssucksatvalorant
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Thats why i asked you. whos gonna be a new 5 for GE if they want to run 5 indian? you said u didnt know and its best to trial. What happens then? How is GE going to trial players for franchising? by paying them? then thats just burning money.

#24
KssS
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i beg to disagree. I dont hate GE as much as the next Indian guy but how does having 1 indian player contribute to India as a whole?

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jmssucksatvalorant
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he thinks 1 player represents the whole region. to me, it doesnt. the org represents the region.

#33
KssS
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Look even if GE represents the region as a whole they are the one to represent India and Riot is marketing GE as such. I get why Indians would want to have a majority Indian roster its because they have been told that GE represents India.

You may not like the nationalism around certain teams but to a lot of people that is what's important to them and that's why they want THEIR teams to succeed and even if they don't get a high placement in the Pacific league at least the experience is there so they share it to their fellow Indian teams that they would be (possibly) leading in the future.

#39
jmssucksatvalorant
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i was agreeing with u btw. and i understand what ur saying completely

#44
KssS
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ahh mb. all good

#45
jmssucksatvalorant
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u good

#62
CoCloudy
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Yes, if its a team I support and am a Fan of
I will stick to them regardless of how they perfom
for example if paper rex bomb out of madrid and not qualify for the rest of the tourneys
i will still support them regardless

#7
Zephyros
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idfk these kids mad if they loose and have no patience
i honestly think its fine to give him time
atleast Rushindra is trying to develop the region and is transparent
i feel like many orgs wouldnt even try

#11
gr1ef
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simple answer
option -

  1. You field a on paper winning roster with good imports and coaches
  2. You take 5 Indians and good coaches to loose and slowly nurture them into good players

We can't just keep on fucking loosing by taking shitass players and coaches with only 1 Indian player

#16
jmssucksatvalorant
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Give us an example of an "on paper" winning roster with good imports and coaches.
Give us an example of 5 indians with good coaches.

If you can, and can actually back up what you are trying to say, then ill believe you.
But if youre gonna be that guy on twitter than uses tracker over vlr stats, saying useless shit, then dont respond

#38
Mugen_24
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I've never understood that second option. If the Indian players are not up to snuff, nothing good will come off it. what experience do they get that they won't get in VCSA? 12 stage matches? If you're playing in GE you're the type of player that is going to make VCSA playoffs anyways, you will get LAN practice. the only real argument is they may get better quality scrims against other APAC teams on lower ping in KR. the downsides? they are going to get fucking battered by people across all the social media platforms. Their confidence will be fucking wiped by the end of the season. It's going worse than the average team by virtue of all the noise surrounding GE.

#47
jmssucksatvalorant
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100%. even if GE takes in a new 5 with a full indian roster, the level of players in franchising is MASSIVE compared to regional players. Lightningfast is probably the best prospect in India that can showcase his talents against other players in franchising.

#54
Mugen_24
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There are only positives from a PR perspective for GE if they had Indian player(s) in the their roster, I'm sure they must have trialled the top prospects from the scene. If they were good enough as of right now they would be on the roster. The fans don't even realise that VCSA has one of the best formats from a player experience perspective, the tops teams will get to play in THREE LANs(split 1 cup 1, split 1 cup 2, and split 2 playoffs). For upcoming players it's the best place to grow.

#56
jmssucksatvalorant
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PR perspective yes 100%. Boosts fan morale and fan interactiveness. Management perspective 100% no. you're just gonna burn money if they dont live up to standards

#14
tomaz
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indian post? have you heard about our payment system upi?

#17
canyon
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indian post? have you seen our Taj Mahal?

#20
voovoovoo
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It's not about 1indian player on the team of 5indian players losing or the team winning.
It's about

  1. how the organisation interacts with the fans.
  2. how they represent themselves in the country.
  3. how they organise themself for the tournaments.

Almost everything is clickbait and scam bait from the organisation, and their market and promote themselves as the best team winning everything. Fans are fed up with their ways and expect them to win or invest in what the fans deem right(like yay).

#21
Kroton
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Jeez, team talking about winning everything before tournaments ? Haven't heard that before

#26
Saiki_taha
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Name 1 team that doesn't do this bro. What do you want them to tweet " Pls support us, we can maybe win against bleed"

#22
TOM_RIDDLE
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i think there are some reasons and i will try to point it out-

Firstly, India is a developing country and there are so many players introduced to the game during covid time and having such a large population there is only one indian player playing . I am not saying they are bad or anything but they haven't had a pc gaming scene like other regions.

secondly, other regions like south korea, singapore , japan and indonesia have 2-3 teams competing in franchise and they definitely deserve it but you can see the population ratio clearly

thirdly, there is only one way indian players can play international is through GE. Ascension being other option but not truly the main glory .

Now, as GE there are two options-

1 - take international players and perform well
2- Take 5 indian players and try to make them experience . Eventually , they will start winning getting and we get a great esports scene for future generations.

GE is trying number 1 - but their is some problem either with the coach or management cause we can see texture performing super well rn and past player of GE are dominating right now.

#23
Saiki_taha
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Delusional Indian Fans. They hate-watch GE games and hardly show any support in-turn causing players to underperform. They genuinely think if GE had all indian roster they will be like Zeta in Masters Reykjavik 2022.

#29
bruddah
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nobody expects a full indian roster to do well. if we arent winning with an international roster, might as well have an indian core.

#34
smthlikeyou11
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but will u sign worse players just for the sake of having an indian core or actually not waste good talent and actually try to fucking win

#36
bruddah
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honestly, they should build a good international roster. current roster is going to finish 10th.

#64
CoCloudy
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they are clearly trying to build a good one
but with shitty support like you its extremely demotivating for them and putting insane pressure for no reason

#41
Saiki_taha
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What would be the point of having an Indian core when Indian players are the ones letting the team down. When they are clearly not even close to T1

#42
Saiki_taha
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What would be the point of having an Indian core when Indian players are the ones letting the team down. When they are clearly not even close to T1

#27
SleepyBear
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this is the thing that why is APAC so much behind EU/NA

people here still have that mindset that they build a teams based on where they come from, what country and etc. which has nothing to do with...instead of making a good team based on actual skills & talents

#32
bruddah
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other than blazeking no one deserves to be in tier 1.

#35
TOM_RIDDLE
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holy fuck benkai has earned more than your entire region and you exclude him nice!!

#37
bruddah
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youre right. benkai is decent.

#50
0fcuZ
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Fns could save India

#66
stopper
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that guy doesnt like indians lool

#63
Kirya
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My fault

#65
geckowrld
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how hard is it to understand WE DONT CARE gE HAVING FOREIGN PLAYERS AS LONG AS THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY i mean look at sg org prx having no sg player but insane foregin players and why tf do all the other teams get these insane underrated talemts like jemkin karon and all and what we get is polvi and ruuss

#67
simurgh
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GE is quite lucky, their fans did not clash out as badly as Talon's.

#69
Rikkumi
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What happen to thailand fans? i dont follow thai community

#70
simurgh
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After they lost to TS, thai fans stormed Talon's Facebook page. IT WAS BAD.

#68
Jinxypoo
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at least they have a team D:

#73
Abbhishake
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Bro we don't consider them as Indian representatives, we are at the same page fighting through that ascension spot

#74
ALoKi007
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W thread I used to support SEN this whole time and never thought about the team from my own country... Thanks for bring me back Cloudy!

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