How did they seed kickoff?

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Asuna_Yuuki

Does anyone know?

EMEA looks different from Pacific

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Mortadelo

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I imagine Champs placements and LCQ placements? Ascension last? Idk I haven't checked

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Liem

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In pacific ascension winner is in group a and in emea the ascension winner is in group c

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Mortadelo

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Only possible explanation is that Vitality got the worst seeding for not playing LCQ. So Vit #11, M8 #10? But I guess not, idk then. Maybe seeing America’s bracket will help understand

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sounds correct and this a new low for Rito, Vita didn't play LCQ for you know what reason.
so the should be placed as LCQ winner.

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Mortadelo

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Nah Riot can't give a seeding they did not earn, wouldn't be fair with everyone else. What happened was terrible but you can't give away competitive advantage because of it. Last of LCQ would be appropriate imo

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Eeny, meeny, miny, moe

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jamONE

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Catch a tiger by the toe.

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ch4nc2

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If he hollers let him go.

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number2_cNed_fan

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teams were seeded in "groups" by champs seeding, then they were randomly placed in groups.
So i would assume groups would be

EX:
M8 is in the "bad teams" group
VIT is in the "mid teams" group
FNC is in the "good teams" group (in this case they were 1st)

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Prathades

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vct emea placement is weird. They put seed 1 against seeds 10 and 11, then put seeds 2,7,8 and 4 in the same group and seeds 3,6,9 and 5.

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teams are put in pools man, and then drawn randomly

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Obsidian_Echo

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""The remaining 10 teams will be sorted into pools based on 2023 performance and drawn into the remaining 10 slots""

#13

Asuna_Yuuki

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Did they ever say how they would sort the pools?

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Obsidian_Echo

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not that i know of

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Breloof

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Four pools.

Based on Champs performance, pool 1 is FNC, FUT, NAVI

Pool 2 only has two teams: TL and GX

Pool 3 is Vit (placed 6th in regular season), KOI and KC (who both got wins at LCQ)

Pool 4 is TH, BBL (went out of LCQ winless) and M8 (Asc)

Then each group has one team from each pool, randomly drawn, with group C missing a pool 2 team and having FNC in it guaranteed.
Note that this also determines the brackets, we always have pool 1 vs pool 4 and pool 2 vs pool 3.

EDIT: Looking at APAC, this is consistent as well, even with how they present the brackets (i.e. which team is in which position)

APAC has the teams listed in the following order:

Group A:

T1 (pool 1)
Bleed (pool 4)

Zeta (pool 2)
GE (pool 3)

Group B:

DRX (pool 1)
DFM (pool 4)

TS (pool 2)
Talon (pool 3)

Group C:

Gen.G (pool 3)
RRQ (pool 4)
PRX (#1 seed)

The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why Talon isn't in pool 4. Maybe it's because they went 1-1 in LCQ while RRQ went 1-2? Still doesn't make sense to me, they placed behind them.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Yea I tried working it out but I think Riot is just hella inconsistent with how they sorted the pools

Maybe they let each region decide how to sort the pools

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simo98

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o7 m8