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vlr.gg is lowkey EU biased?

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cartixuzi

https://twitter.com/FerahgoTheGreat/status/1740108917852762346

FerahgoTheGreat if ur reading this you wanna explain yourself rn? Demon1 at 9th under kiNgg & Sayf (wtf)? Ethan 18th? wtf im i looking at? is this bait? Jinggg or f0rsaken aren't even on the list but fucking Sayf made it to 5th?

this isn't even a joke im genuinely confused here, like this isn't supposed to be some kinda subjective discussion like we ranking our favourite albums because in what world would anyone make this tier list otherwise. like not a single EG player above 8th with only 1 of them being above 18th? we have to be joking no?

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Potatobrawler8
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me too, why isn't skrossi at no 1?

#3
FluffyRhino4
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Sayf 🤣🤣

#4
zombzino
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bro are you dumb? it is a personal twitter where he made a personal tweet about players he likes. how the fuck does that reflect the rest of the website lmfao

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cartixuzi
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it doesnt, the title is a joke cus this list is beyond horrendous lol

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zombzino
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o my fault

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Yanko
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That’s his top 20 why you mad 😹

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peyoek
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sayf #5 based

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shaq_attaqr
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I think this guy just forgot champs happened

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Pengu12
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Or tokyo

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destroylonely
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LMAO wtf is that dogshit list

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babysasuke
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chill on bro 💀

but maybe when NA wins Champions again this year the players from the strongest region in the world will get the respect they deserve

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cartixuzi
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sayf is four placements above demon1, ive literally seen dedicated baiters make more reasonable tier lists than this, literally how does one come to this conclusion unironically. Demon1 was literally the guy something was supposed to be but somehow he's five placements higher

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FerahgoTheGreat
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Demon1 didn't play in the first half of the year, and he was good but not great for the second half of the Americas League and Masters Tokyo. He was only elite at Champs (which is a huge deal that boosts him into the top 20), and his importance in the transformation of EG gives him a top 10 spot, but I think recency bias is really making people forget that for the majority of the year, he wasn't a top 20 player. Sayf absolutely dominated the EMEA league, and I give him a lot of credit for carrying a TL roster that I thought was pretty bad overall.
f0rsaken is nowhere near this list for his 2023 performance although he could definitely get back onto it next year. Jinggg was a top honorable mention, but his playstyle didn't translate to good performances against top teams even though PRX were winning.

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ionlyHave1Zuni
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Gangsters like me aint got time to read allat. We would rather make MONEY ☝️🫰🤞✌️🤘🤟🖖✋🖐️🤚🤙🤌🤏👌🔥

#16
FerahgoTheGreat
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My tweet was also made in 5 minutes, so if I did a deep dive into the analysis, I'm sure some players would move around the list.

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Ballsamolee
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Brother I can figure out in 1 second that Sayf shouldn't be that high up.

#17
cartixuzi
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my brother in christ Demon1 was ranked 9th in Americas and 11th in Masters according to your own vlr rating system, I don't understand how that's not a great performance. You're specifically viewing the 2nd half of both tournaments as an indicator on why he wasn't great when that should straight up be redundant because why are we just going to discount the 1st half to begin with? The claim that he wasn't even great during the 2nd half of Americas & Masters literally isn't true to begin with at all.

Sayf had a dominant performance during the EMEA league, but this is a performance ranking of players for the entirety of 2023. You mention on how Demon1 was only elite at Champs (which is just straight up not true btw) when Sayf was literally that this year, he had a forgettable LOCK//IN experience, a dominant performance during the EMEA League, average-good performance during Masters, and an average performance during Champs.

Obviously I think there's a bunch of other things I don't agree with including some that's A LOT more egregious, but some of the basis of this ranking in what you're telling me here literally make no sense whatsoever. The fact that you made that tier list in like 5 minutes also gives off the impression that you made some of these discussions like Sayf being way higher than Demon1 without even putting thought into it which is imo even crazier.

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Yessirskiiii
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Demon1 is an EU import as he's Russian.

Ethan is just a decent player in a good system. Shouldn't be top 30 if we are talking individual skill only. He'll get exposed outside of Potter's 200 IQ schemes, watch this space.

#AheadOfTheCurve

#20
Ballsamolee
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brother demon1 isnt an import

#22
Conut
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Braindead

#21
MNFRKK
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It’s top 20 and i dont see Jinggg AND f0rsakeN issa stupid

#23
0fcuZ
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No one cares. L bait.

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