ffs riot, they first say South Asia need to prove themselves then give 1 slot, still its fine but now when there were literally 2 slots from china going out, u give them to korea and japan, how are we supposed to prove ourselves when singular countries gets 3 slots both while 7 countries get 1 slot, so annoying
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Facts. I mean I'm happy to see DK in APAC, but seeing SA not getting a single slot after 2 slots were left vacant is kinda messed up.
Yes, some could say that oh KR did well so they deserve one extra, oh JP not bad so one more for them, but in reality I feel like 1 should have gone to SA and 1 to KR maybe?
My apologies. I didn't know you had seen Riot's road map.
My apologies that VCC (the circuit dedicated to India and SA) is organised by riot & nodwin, but the dude above you is calling it 3rd party.
Remind me also. how many South Asian only tournaments did CS, overwatch, LoL, R6 have in their first year organised by the Valve / Blizard / Ubisoft / RIOT / ESL / (Insert other large tournament organisers) that would grant passage into an international tournament featuring major regions with well established FPS history?
My apologies that you're emotional and will downfrag this anyway, because you're not comprehending the bigger picture.
i see your point there but to answer your question,
Yes Valve did gave india a straight spot for major in 2014 ESL One Cologne CSGO (back when esports was in its infancy in India)
although that's a different thing that they never received any direct slots after that and failed to qualify for any major since then.
But you can still see that in 2014 Valve must have seen the potential in India which tempted them to give them a slot.
This is exactly what the thread is about , priortize direct slot for vct circuit and not just LCQ. Set an Example and Let these teams show what they can do on the international stage.
Cool. You're talking about 2014. CSGO came out in 2012 and the first major tournament was Dreamhack which was 16 teams, all NA and EU.
You're referencing something that came out 2 years after the game had been out and re-established a community of players world wide.
India has more in Valorant in its first year than it had in CSGO. It's not an opinion, just a fact.
Also it's a different time, players have way more opportunities to garner support for their region and they did back in 2012/13 because of social media and streaming..
There's no way major region players and even tournament organisers back in 2012 would have known who the likes of SKROSSI were when the game first came out. Now we can't escape the name. This = impressions = money. Riot will not ignore this. so chill.
If India gets snubbed when the 2022 circuit is announced. Come back to this post and call me braindead.
Yep, have faith my friend. These things take time to navigate. Even if it' not a great showing next year, Valorant mobile is coming. And that likely will boost the game in that region tremendously having a knock on effect to awareness of the PC game. India will be too large a region to ignore in not too distant future. There's money there, and companies like money.
Looking at their attitude they are gonna snub in 2022 as well.
Saving this post for later.
BTW IT IS, RIOT'S MISTAKE that they did not announce the circuit system in South Asia or let them be a part of SEA when they did for literally every other region except Africa and Oceania.
Also, it looks all fairy and lovely to say "just wait a year and Riot will give you slots". But you forgot that year 1 is the most important year for the development of any esports. South Asia was not given a chance to compete internationally and they are already behind by an entire year.
Imagine pros with 1 year of experience going against players with no experience. You will get shit on. Getting shit on = No gained experience. This cycle hence continues.
BTW at least 3 major orgs have already released teams in India in the past 2 months. It is already dying despite huge promises in year 1. Riot snubbing India is a big reason. I don't think more than 4 fully paying full-time orgs will be there in India by next year. No use of slots by that point.
Companies like money, sure, South Asia has viewership and promise sure, but you gotta nurture it early. It ain't gonna sit forever and wait for you to start paying attention to it.
It's not just about Riot. What matters is Indian orgs. They saw a new game, they saw talent, they saw viewership, they got fully paid full-time rosters.
Riot ignored the region while literally spoonfeeding other regions, obviously, they are gonna release rosters and look for profit somewhere else.
"Imagine pros with 1 year of experience going against players with no experience. You will get shit on. Getting shit on = No gained experience. This cycle hence continues."
Like 18 year old Gambit winning a tournament against players who have played in countless regional A tier CS lans and a few majors....OK son. And that's besides the point. It's not riot's job to make sure teams don't get obliterated by major regions at tournaments. It's their job to ensure that they penetrate as many markets as possible and grow the playerbase. If riot wanted the game to be as competitive as possible. There would ONLY BE NA AND EMEA TEAMS AT LAN. PERIOD.
Yeah, perhaps the pro scene will suffer in the SHORT TERM. But there are going to be players and orgs who will supersede the current people who get dropped / defunded or whatever the case may be.
Also. Dead the narrative that Riot isn't supporting your region. I already mentioned above in replying to the guy who used Valve as an example, that Riot has shown WAY more support in year 1 of valorant for India. All of you who are complaining because India only has 1 LCQ spot must have blindfolds on. How is a dedicated tournament with first party funding considered ignoring???? You're smoking crack, respectfully.
They're not "spoon feeding" the other regions, it's called wise investing. The game is obviously going to generate more revenue in regions such as EU CIS NA TR, because these regions are proven to be hyper lucrative in esports. And SIMULTANEOUSLY they have already shown investment in minor regions like India/SA.
Yes, my friend. Gambit lost to 100T who were being crushed. They choked and they choked hard.
Gambit lost 1v3s to Hiko. Who is much more experienced?
Gambit beat Envy who are all young players. CR which come from Japan and their entire region is new to FPS. Vision Strikers, once again are all young players or are in their first major tournament at such scale.
Your points work against you.
ONLY BE NA AND EMEA TEAMS AT LAN
Yeah, cause other regions don't even get the chance to compete in the early years.
Riot has shown WAY more support in year 1 of valorant for India
Except it hasn't? 2014 was the first year Valve started hosting tournaments internationally. India got a direct slot into the 2014 major and had decent performance against NIP who were literally gods at that time.
How is a dedicated tournament with first-party funding considered ignoring?
VCC was not first-party funded. At least do some research. Nodwin (their partners) literally had to bear the cost of the entire tournament. Riot was like either you agree to conduct this tournament on your own expenses or you don't even get this. It was literally just a contract to conduct a tournament and 0 funding was given from Riot for this.
If you do not even know this don't comment on such topics.
These comments just make me think you don't know shit about what you are talking about. Come out of your cave. Touch some grass.
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