IF NA HAD | VLR.gg

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dayyaan1

if NA had orgs that werent ran by clout goblins that sold their soul to the devil, and had GMs like shitMEA (good GM decisions, unfortunately talentless region that cant capitalize on it) every international event would be a slaughter

regardless, NA will win Madrid and Shanghai

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crazy how a talentless region like EMEA didn't rely on cs rejects to carry their scene unlike some other regions, all other pc fps's are dead in ur region so they just all switch to val insane talent u have

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spookmeister

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He doesn’t know, does he

#4

Kkonakorner

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nah tell me what was i wrong about,EMEA top players are ppl who barely had a esports careers or didn't even have one before val while NA is filled with experienced tier 1/3 players from other games like cs,is this not a fact

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spookmeister

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EMEA didn’t rely on CS rejects to carry their scene

LMFAO

-Boaster
-Derke
-Ange1
-Ardiis
-jamppi
-soulcas
-nAts
-sayf
-hoody
-nukkye
-rhyme
-m0xwell

edit: nice edit buddy going from “tell me what I was wrong about” to “ummmm well uhh they BARELY had any career!”

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Kiko

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plenty more than that that are not tier 1 anymore

#10

spookmeister

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Of course. Even NBK but he couldn’t even get out of t3 LMFAOO
but yeah I only listed people who were in last years franchising

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Yistyy

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absolutely cooked him

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Yistyy

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You after realizing every region's valorant scene is carried by ex cs pros 😲😲😲

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Kkonakorner

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u after realizing NA is carried the most by far and its not even close😲😲😲

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Yistyy

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Yeah, and EMEA can't even rely on their ex cs players. They just lose anyway kkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Kkonakorner

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because eu had no reason to move 70% of their tier 2 scene to another game,theres like 5 or 6 serious cs payers from eu who switched

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Kiko

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explain the eg roster then gang

#45

Kkonakorner

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i already did check #32 in the thread above u

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patuj

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Difference is that pretty much none of those switches affected the EU CS scene at all while NA switches pretty much killed any scene NA had. Mostly tier 2-3 players who wouldn't have never seen a day of tier 1 CSGO. Let alone the potential talent that decided to focus on CSGO and are doing it rn compared to NA where there's almost 0 up and coming talent.

Overall point is that NA is full into Valorant while CS is still really popular in EU and pretty much most top talent stayed playing it.

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spookmeister

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U act like NA CS had any life in it other than Liquid at that point 💀💀 (rip liquid cs tho. whoever the manager is there is braindead)

NA CS was already losing a shitload of orgs and players. I’m pretty sure Chaos EC closed b/c of Covid related business issues, right? Players had nowhere to go and NA CS was already dead. The switches didn’t cause the death of NA CS, they were the result of it.

Ok, for real tho, I never said they affected the eu cs scene, idrk why you brought it up. I’m just saying… boaster lowkey WAS a CS reject. He never escaped British T2 land. So were most of the rest I listed. The dude I was responding to said EMEA wasn’t carried by cs rejects, but a shitload of top players are exactly that.

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Kkonakorner

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thank u for this u did the work for me,so these are the best and most accomplished rejects u can find in eu val,including tier 3 ukcs players,ardiis who played 2 months in endpoint,nats with 7 hltv games,rhyme with 5 in some random pug teams

now lets see NA ex and current tier 1 players with atleast notable tier 1-3 experience and were signed in actual orgs

-xeppaa
-leaf
-vanity
-fns
-yay
-ethan
-nitr0
-tenz
-victor
-crashies
-sick
-shahzam
-dapr
-s0m
-zellsis
-mitch
-dephh
-hazed
-subroza
-dazzle
-moose
-wardell

plenty more than that that are not tier 1 anymore

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FluffyRhino4

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He only put franchised players

Not to mention you’re just proving his point that both regions have retired cs players and to make that take is dumb

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Kkonakorner

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hard t argue with ppl who have 0 cs knowledge,if u knew cs would know that these payers i listed from NA were miles better even in cs than those eu payers he named with a few expections

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FluffyRhino4

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If u had any Valorant knowledge you’d know that it’s a completely different game than cs. You can’t rely on mechanics. It’s a strategy game that’s not built for brain dead players

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Kkonakorner

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completely different game strikes again,u can absolutely rely n mechanics 100% in val,scream didnt play tier 1 cs since 2018 but managed to stay in tier 1 val for 2 years just from his aim
he would still absolutely keep up in tier 1 if he wasn't igling

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FluffyRhino4

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Ur point is that na relies on ex cs players lmao

Let me ask u this who had more former cs players on their team Fnatic or eg?

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spookmeister

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So how does this disprove that EU has a lot of top players that are CS rejects?

All it does is show NA has more. But I never denied that. You’re arguing nothing

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Kkonakorner

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that the NA rejects actually had careers? Had t put p nats and rhyme with under 10 hltv games in some tier 31151 pug teams to make it seem bigger,im talking abt players who actually had some stock in the cs market but still decided to switch,and the part where i said NA has been carried by them

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nutab1e

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great gm decision to keep m0xwell payrolled for 3 years

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SAMPV6

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true but I mean, the org didn't go broke bc of it

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DeluluGavin

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didn't know NA was so talented. surely they have more trophies right? oh wait...

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valorant_player

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more Champs trophies?

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GreyDaze

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Emea 1 champs
Na 1 champs
Emea 5 overall trophies
Na 3

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DeluluGavin

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Let me remind you that LOUD winning champs trophy does not count as NA winning a champs trophy in 2022. ACEND in 2021 and EG in 2023. your point is...?

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