Are Riot games more casuals?

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Cacachocolat

Valorant is a simplified CS
LoL is a simplified Dota 2

Do you guys agree?

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Alanzika

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that first comment that everone upvotes

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Yessirskiiii

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Ratio sadly

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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Did you fucking read my mind??? Just as i post you posted

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Yessirskiiii

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Telepathic communication between us🙏

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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Friendly Ratio

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dexter000111

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I don't think Valorant is simple at all, it's just more beginner friendly that cs

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smaul_daung

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I think the word my friend used to describe the difference between dota and league was that league was more "intuitive". I wouldn't know because mobas are shit. But early valorant did feel more clear for a beginner than cs. It's a bit of a clusterfuck now tbf

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TrialRunnr

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shouldnt all games be casual?

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NoOne_ButMe

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Games
Which are played to release stress or to enjoy your free time they need to be casual
What do you want them to make?
Nioh type shit

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PRX_JINGGG_LOVER

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how is valorant simplified CS lol. It is actually way more complicated. CS has simplified utility compared to val

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Cacachocolat

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mechanically cs is harder

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PRX_JINGGG_LOVER

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ok but you said simplified

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greyza

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difficulty isn't the same thing is as simplicity. even if you think cs is mechanically more difficult look at one of those valorant screenshots where there's 87 abilities on the screen and tell me it's simpler

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UBClears

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Valorant is still easier to pick up and play. Having 1,000 more pieces of utility doesn’t make it more difficult. It just makes it more convoluted and visually confusing.

CSGO is the harder game to master BECAUSE it’s so simple. Everyone is on even footing so to speak. The only way to differentiate yourself is through mechanics and split second decision making.

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greyza

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never said it made it more difficult. that was actually the entire point of the reply. simplicity is not difficulty, very first sentence

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tls127

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Dotas game design is actually ass
Yes lol is simpler but dota genuinely sucks

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Darkobas01

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Never played dota or lol, but Valorant is as different of a fps 5v5 game as it can be when compared to CS. Valorant focuses a lot on agents and different utilities, while CS focuses a lot more on gunplay. CS gameplay is a lot more polished, even in beginners ranks because of how old it is. While valorant can never be so polished because of number of agents and different possibilities to execute a site.

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regnoz

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agree with dota2 and LoL but no with val, your stress level is same as playing CS imo

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Warlordwibz

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Valorant is the more diverse international version of CS.

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Domination

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No, valorant doesn't have cheat codes🗿

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Zeah

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Nah more like the skill floor is much lower for riot games, so basically riot make an "easy to play, hard to master" typical of games.

For dota2 vs LoL, most seasoned dota2 players (4000+ hrs or high archon) might easily made it into diamond-master but it still takes another considerable amount of hours to get into gm/challenger.

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KyLZi

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I do think that LoL is a simplified version of Dota. Dota is hard af tho

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Zeah

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i've been playing dota for 4 years and a few months of LoL. I'd say 1k+ hrs of playtime means u just finished only the tutorial. It takes a lot more to actually master the game.

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KyLZi

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I got about 200 hrs in Dota and yeah that feels accurate