S0ms > marved | VLR.gg

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Siltra

Do you think S0ms was an upgrade from marved or no?

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PooFaceCe

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Fuck no, hes good but Marved (at his time) was the best controller ever

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Yessirskiiii

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Mako is clear (and was)

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PooFaceCe

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https://www.vlr.gg/130691/optic-gaming-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2022-lbf

https://www.vlr.gg/112325/drx-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-ubsf

https://www.vlr.gg/85528/drx-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubsf

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cboomer

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that zest game on split was something else

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PooFaceCe

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I'd do better but good for him I guess

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Yistyy

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Jimzo: 3 grand finals and god tier lurker
Mak0: statpadder, mid, only got one top 3 at champs

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smizuu

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can you explain why mako is mid make sure a-z

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Yistyy

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Mako is goated. I'm just heavy biased so marved clears

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smizuu

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you not answer my question

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pugboy

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MaKo is goated dw

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cboomer

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no different roles
som will ofc frag more because he lurks less can we use our brains

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OkOkay

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lurking legit gives u free frags wdym

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cboomer

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its not ranked gang do u see players lurking not named alfa dropping 1.3 rating consistently lol

s0m has higher stats because hes in a better position to TRADE kills which gets more frags than lurking

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Uncleben

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Optic core literally mentioned that yay and marved are the biggest baiters on the team. Marved lurked early in 2022, but by the end he was trading most of the time.

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OkOkay

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Yay and marved were lurkers. Who were the best on the team again? exactly. Thats why yay did so well on chamber because he wasnt main entry and could play passive.

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Uncleben

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THIS hundred percent. Which is why victor was underrated despite being a mid fragger and why he frags now they aren’t on his team. He had to run and die so yay could hold angles and marved could lurk.

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cboomer

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ardiis literally baits just as much as yay if not more 😭 fans be so clueless

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OkOkay

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Only on chamber and ye thats why people want him out lmao

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cboomer

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baiting with no frags 😭

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Uncleben

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Ardis ain’t baiting on Jett brotha. Cuz if he is whose entrying? He entries on haven and split for sure. Plus no one saying that marved and yay are bad, just that marved isn’t somehow massively better than S0m just for nostalgia’s sake.

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cboomer

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im just saying theyre different if you watch minimap fns is more comparable to marved than s0m is

also yay did it on jett too, ill give an example of a play nrg still uses on ascent both on jett yay and ardiis lurk up tree and victor entries then the jett re-entries off door after clearing late

Victor has always suffered the burden of entrying on suboptimal agents because hes just so good at it

Ardiis gets decent FB but its like yay most of it is awping or aggressive angles that are taken with supporting utility

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cboomer

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yay baits he lurks a little on ascend for optic and thats about it

yay is a refragger ( second entry ) victor is entry crashies was init marved lurk fns anchor hope this makes sense

if you watch valorant and can't understand that marved is more passive and literally SEES less duels despite taking more risks than s0m because of play style then idk

s0ms NRGs best player rn but its just weird to compare, they play the same agents but roles are different mayn its like comparing yay to derke

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melon_fan

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bro doesn’t know the iceman 🗿

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Zaynio

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In this meta? Yeah, I think he works much better than Marved since lurking in this meta isn't able to be as impactful as it once was.

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Marved clears him stop lying to yourself. The results are all you need to see

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thatpower

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yes big upgrade

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Lets_talk

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Both are insane. But Marved was also the lurker most of the time and that was a main part of Optic wins.

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Uncleben

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YES YES YES YEs
MARVED HAS THE BEST FUCKING PR TEAM EVER
Bro struggled to clear 1 rating other than Reykjavik 2022
Insane at Reykjavik, mid at Copenhagen, mediocre at champs
He doesn’t lurk nearly as much as everyone says he does
S0m clutches the same amount as him
Bro had 2 good games on sentinels and everyone said he was insane
Mako is better
Pancada is better
S0m is better
Mindfreak is better in 2023

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PuGGey

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w stripper

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winae29

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idk they play different but i would take marved just because he can make more game winning plays

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douradoxp

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s0m is good but marved is goated