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why do people saythe mcu fell off

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thenutoriousPRO

haters fr
still goated

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bro its not mcu that fell off. its the whole movie tv and anime industry that fell off. its not real, its a psyop, and people just realised; it doesn't matter to waste emotions on this futile industry.

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blud hasnt watched oppenheimer

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h786
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that is a psyop to make people sorry for Oppenheimer, imagine feeling bad for the event that killed 100s of thousands of INNOCENT people. i dont care what guilt trip that movie tries to make me feel, i will always keep the bigger picture in mind.

its like people who feel sorry for the soldiers who came back from Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, with PTSD and horrible psychological impacts. Of course its going to happen!
not an ounce of empathy goes towards them. (just for clarification, i do feel an atom of empathy for the soldiers (i guess) , but not the Western psyop that we should feel bad for 'america' for feeling these things, i know they are following orders, but it doesn't change the fact that it still happened. and they were used for it. there has to be some blame and its never the victims.)

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thenutoriousPRO
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its not really about that but go off ig

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cobalt21312
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dawg what ????

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vnvodich
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Oppenheimer is war propaganda aka psyop

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thenutoriousPRO
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bro its literally about why war is bad and why war will end the human race
what are u talking about

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h786
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look at where the movie is coming from - The west!

oh the hypocrisy!

its a coping mechanism

look at it this way. i make an apology, while i commit a horrifying action, so as to justify and make others feel sorry for me. where is the remorse? where is the repentance? repentance is not: I keep continuing to do the same action, its feeling genuinely sorry, and moving forward, and making an outstandingly supreme effort, not to make the mistake again. THIS is the real outcome of remorse, and that kind of act is praiseworthy.

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thenutoriousPRO
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bro thinks the us government made oppenheimer
how is Christopher nolan(not even american btw) supposed to stop war??????????????????

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i made sure NOT to say america ( i made sure to say West, because its not just america who is the culprit, its also Britian, where christopher nolan is from) also, do you know what the department of defense does as favour for hollywood? they have a specific protocol where they let hollywood use their props (machines, guns, helis, aircraft, weapons, armory,) all for free, so that hollywood adds in a scene showing the army in a good light. or they direct a scene for themselves. you can look it up, its free propaganda!

who cares where the director is from!!

do you think hollywood cares? do you think the department of defense cares?

its still a psyop, and christopher nolan, isnt immune to it ( im not saying his movies are bad, in any way.)

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thenutoriousPRO
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have u seen oppenheimer?

#23
h786
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no, but it wont change my thoughts. ask yourself, why would hollywood post a movie condemning war when they continued to do it after hiroshima nagasaki? why the arms race? why the vietnam war, why iraq? another excuse will come up soon (ukraine) , and it will change nothing. they learn nothing. they just made this movie to victimise themselves and remove all guilt from their upcoming actions, i predict that nothing will change, and this isnt a dumb prediction; its a hypothesis backed by evidence.

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thenutoriousPRO
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lol obv this movie isnt going to change anything what?
bro is criticizing a movie he hasnt even seen

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you haven't even seen the movie you have no room to critize anything about the idea or intention of the movie there is no victimizing in this movie at all in fact it exhibits arrogance and naiveness towards all americans canadians and english that were involved in the project of making the bomb and the act of dropping the bomb just watch the movie to have a real opinion instead of saying something that has no factuality to it at all

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I will say, there was a big focus on this within oppenheimer after they launch the bomb where Oppenheimer ends up saying to the active president he feels there's blood on his hands, and the president shrugs it off saying he launched the bomb, not him and when oppenheimer walks out the oval office, in the distance he hears the president say "don't let that crybaby in here again"

this was one of my favourite scenes of the film

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Because it has. You been watching all the tv shows? I have. They're definitely advancing the mcu story but almost every single one is extremely mediocre. Movies have also been w/e. The mcu definitely hit a high point with infinity war into endgame. And has since fell off hard.

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thenutoriousPRO
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gotg vol3, Wakanda forever, antman 3, black widow all great movies
they been on a hot streak with gotg 3 Wakanda forever and antman 3

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Selex
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Gotg 3 and wakanda were great. But honestly thought antman 3 was mid and while I was entertained by black widow(it wasn't amazing tho), it sort of felt pointless with her already being dead in end game. This is just the movies tho, cant pretend all of the mediocre shows on disney+ haven't been coming out.

falcon and the winter soldier is mid
moon knight mid
ms marvel terrible
loki was good
she-hulk mid
wanda-vision good
secret invasion haven't finished watching but seeming mid to me

That's a lot of mid

edit: Forgot hawkeye, it seems to be well-reviewed, don't really understand why, very underwhelming

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thenutoriousPRO
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moon knight was good

#18
Selex
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I guess we just have different tastes/expectations. It was better than some of the other shows I called mid. But the pacing was out of wack(This seems to be the case with most of these shows) and a large portion of the cgi was horrendous.

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Bonkbonk201
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i mean if u watch everything to rate it, then yeah every movie or show will be mid

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Selex
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Not exactly sure what you're trying to say. If you watch enough television/movies for long enough, then whether you want to or not, you're going to naturally come to observe and appreciate what is being done well when it comes to narrative progression, pacing, characters, etc. That's just reality. Doesn't mean i'm watching everything to "rate it."

edit: And it certainly doesn't mean i think everything is mid just because i think most of what marvel has put out recently is

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pugboy
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antman 3 was awful GOTG 3 was the only real top tier movie

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brobeans
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hollywood fell off. their movies/show suck and everyone knows why

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GreyDaze
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Mcu always relied on action scenes more than plot

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SigmaMale
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You're a man child if you watch and enjoy capeshit

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BayArea
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I don’t know about movie quality, but the MCU feels boring without Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, etc

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uwukitten
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mcu went from mid to garbage so yeah it fell off

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FDWC-
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havent watch any marvel movie since end game KKKKKKKKK

#30
souvlaki
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that's because it's still generic but with bad CGI

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MuZe
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Because they introduced all these shit tv shows that I don't give a flying fuck about after Endgame and connected it to the main universe, made me lose all interest. Also less is more, superhero movies have become oversaturated just like every other thing.

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It didn't fell off, just became oversaturated due to the rate they release TVS/Movies. Back then, it's easier to play catch up if you missed a couple of movies. Now, if you missed something, it becomes daunting because it feels like a lot. It's also hard to get hyped up. The feeling of actually marking down the release date of the movies back then is so different than right now. I personally think speculations + theories are part of what makes MCU exciting. Today, you have no time to get hyped because after one series ends, another will start the next week so there's no point.

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emirerays
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Bro back then movies had quality but now its like lost its quality idk why tho

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KssS
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they release so much shit now that its hard to keep up and most of it isn't really worth watching and then when you get to watch the good+important stuff you miss out on a lot of detail because you didn't watch that mediocre tv series that was a snoozefest

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