players that fill

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zerosh1ma

riot needs to fix rr system for players like me who fill
i legit plant like 4-8 times a game and entry as skye with jett + reyna on my team (cuz they lurk)
but then I lose -20rr and top frag but when i win and top i get like +18rr ????
they need to give duelists rr based on kills and opening duels and they need to give others based on util usage/damage and trade frags tbh

tldr: riot rr system is made for instalock jetts

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vasant

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true

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WitLitning

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become an instalock jett.

i main controller agents because nobody likes playing smokes. it gets old, but then nobody plays smokes if i pick jett lol.

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zerosh1ma

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i cant bro people have fkn stickers on their monitor or something on where jett is and they lock it before i even load :(

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WitLitning

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lol i know a guy who memorized the spot on each map in the loading screen to instalock jett. sticker would have been much easier.

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Learn some jett smoke lineups :)

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WitLitning

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"get onto site in four seconds or you're fucked, silly little support players"

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I always top frag but fokin rina heker smurfing

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They most likely won't change it because it's too hard to do it for the time being I would suggest getting like 10 or so friends and play with them in the custom servers it's like so much more fun that way

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zerosh1ma

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challenge: getting 10 friends

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Big_Floppa

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Try 4 then who knows they might have friends who have 5 other friends who play I recently tried 10 mans it's like miles better than the ranked experience

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zerosh1ma

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yeah i got friends but they have jobs and stuff :/
also they are stuck in bronze/silver and im imm so i rarely play with them

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Big_Floppa

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Unlucky really you could try discord and check for servers but I stay away from that cesspool

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zerosh1ma

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thanks for the advice big floppa! am big fan!!

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notSkRossi

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imagine not instalocking jett

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That's such a shit take since it ignores so many key aspects of the game.

A duelist's role is not to get kills but to get space. If you get openings kills and multifrags as a result of that space, great, but if your duelist is consistently getting your team on sites by taking space but get no entry kills, that will help your team massively. They might bottomfrag but actually help your team win in a huge way.

Also, that would promote people to play in non-optimal ways to "inflate their stats".

If kills mattered a lot as a duelist you could lurk all game and play 1v4 situations all the time to get exit frags and boost your RR gains. If util usage mattered a lot more as an initiator or something, you'd be using your util to affect the maximum amount of enemies no matter if your team can capitilize on that utility or not.

Piss take and stop crying about losing.

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zerosh1ma

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i understand they are supposed to take space but they shouldn't end the game with 0 opening kills, especially on defense where they should seek duels and when they get one, fall back
f0rsaken is the best example of opening duels, he literally gets 5v4 like every round for paper rex on defense

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kapteN

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Still you offer an incomplete solution that will actually do more harm than good, surely you see that. It incentivizes counter-productive play

#15

zerosh1ma

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well at least i offer a solution, can we both agree that the ranking system is unfair to duelists?
if you look at top 100 alone i can bet more than 70 of them are duelists, maybe 80

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kapteN

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Offering a solution that is not fit-for-purpose does more harm than good. Until rito comes up with something that acutally solves it, we need to accept the ranked system as is.

Your solution does nothing but harm.

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zerosh1ma

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how do you think riot will solve it? honestly i think they'll keep it as is but i think they should add trade kills as a statistic for the end of the game.

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StatusLIVE

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Idk I main Astra in plat and I don't seem to be getting far less than my friends I queue with who play duelist. For a win I get like +22 or +18 and for a loss I can get -14-> -17 depending on performance. I think this might be one of those cases with personal anecdotes don't represent the rest of the community but I understand you frustration with playing support. My advice is to play with your teammates when they're willing and focus on winning your duels when they don't want to work with you to maximize util effectiveness.

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zerosh1ma

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i think its personally against me bruh
i win most of my aim duels, but i just want my team to entry, i always end up first out as sage/skye/sova because most of my IMMORTAL duelists enjoy lurking....

edit: and when i play duelist (i only play raze on split/icebox) you will always see me first out