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Yessirskiiii

NA fans trying to convince themselves that they are on the same level as EU is shameful. Trophy count 5 vs 2. This is the same as a Chelsea fan trying to convince themselves they are the same level, or higher as Real Madrid

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at least we have more than 1 good team 😹😹😹😹

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Yessirskiiii

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Giants, NAVI, KOI, FUT, TL and FNC. I count 6 good teams

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Qwerttyy

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😹😹😹😹 100T would dog on all of those teams but FNC

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yawnster

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100Bots Cryo and Assuna are playing with OTV right now. They've accepted content creator role already 😭😭😭😭 finished team

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Qwerttyy

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NA teams have beaten every single one of those teams at the last 3 events 😹😹 cry

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moatz

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Those content creators r currently 1-0 against Lulquid 😹😹😹

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babushka_boii95

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owen16 your team got reverse-swept my saveiatan😹😹😹😹 if I was u I wouldnt be seen here until next season

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realistically the only teams that could make a deep run in LA is TL or FNC. Others are just not at that level

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C0co

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without FNC their record in tokyo was 2-6, only winning against chinese teams 😹😹😹

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yawnster

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Its too late, idk what happened to them but their all sucking each other off like it's some sort of coping mechanism 😹

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PRXRoach

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Everyone is tier2 compared to fnc so who cares which region is better

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KanyeAsada

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how is EMEA's trophy count the slightest bit relevant when talking about which region is better right now? Nobody disagrees that EMEA is better all time

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Halleluhwah

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cuz we're fresh off a tournament?

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KanyeAsada

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so you think that best team itw = best region? delusional. they're the best team, but the region has no depth, so they can't be the best region

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?

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cboomer

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ngl current 1thieve is better than n0vi

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brobeans

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EU frogs just be inventing stats from thin air

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PuGGey

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1 team region.

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Yessirskiiii

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6 team region*

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PuGGey

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LMFAO

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NA teams wins vs EMEA teams at international events all time: 14
EMEA teams wins vs NA teams at international events all time: 14

Seems about on the same level to me

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U keep the cheap trophies, we keep the money and views.
Emea win in game
Na win irl

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clocksky888

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Sorry what

money

are you talking about? Just curious, please enlighten me. And I've generously supplied a table below that isn't complete but paints a picture ...

  Team    Earnings         
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| FNC   | 914,634 |
| LOUD  | 665,387 |
| PRX   | 619,368 |
| SEN   | 577,500 |
| Acend | 542,741 |
| Liquid| 534,029 |
| Optic | 499,000 |
| Gambit| 495,638 |
| Fpx   | 482,291 |
| DRX   | 394,514 |
| 100T  | 339,000 |
| G2    | 329,799 |

There was this braindead kid (Subreezy) who liked to talk about money... anyway, he was as usual full of shite ;)

P.S. I honestly don't understand why some push BS about state of ITL Valorant competition ... Like seriously, what does it achieve for them?

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Master_oGgway

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Only from tournaments, average NA streamer like shahzam earns prize pool money in a month.

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Prontera

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No rat earn that much. Stop lying.

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Master_oGgway

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Its true, money from sponsorships, money from org, money from twitch, money from yt = price pool money or at least half of it

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clocksky888

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You're too loose on the check ... I do on occasions check Twitch's top streamers earnings ... but I wanted to separate Twitch and professional Valorant with all the respect to the community - these should not be mixed together. PERIOD

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clocksky888

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Sorry, but we must respectably stay within professional Valorant framework... Twitch streaming and any other profit-making non-professional activities should be excluded from the topic - in order to derive correct conclusions.

And you absolutely correct, I know... it's quite exciting to peer into other people's pockets and estimate how much money they make in general... but how accurate would that data be in terms of worldwide competitiveness/earnings to judge the condition of professional Valorant?

You got me right - do not mix apples and oranges together.

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azureblade101

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flair

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oblvs

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eu win in game all they want, we'll keep the clout and money

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emea have some rly gud teams but tbh not best region, they don’t have enough competitive teams. only fnc and liquid are actually gud rn, maybe fut and giants as well, but the rest either fell off (navi), or just look awful (kcorp and heretics)

in NA the worst teams are still quite competitive, with the worst of them (100t ig) standing at around the level of fut or giants. So I’d say americas, specifically NA is more competitive than emea.

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You got wrong comparison. You should compared EPL and La Liga. La Liga have more champions league trophies, but we can still argue that EPL is still the best league itw...

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WinterZ20

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the Chelsea shade was unnecessary 😭😭

Trust we coming back stronger next season, Pochettino is make magic w our club

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AstroGalaxy

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bro, navi might get grouped, idk if i wuld post this

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Yessirskiiii

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We are eating gucci come champs time

Do NA fans have any shame?

money

You got me right - do not mix apples and oranges together.