Opinion from APAC: Why APAC is the worst region

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Azure96

NA - Land of the Immigrant
Example of some of their best players along with their ethnic groups: Demon1 (Russian), Jawgemo (Cambodian), C0M (Korean), Victor (Chinese), Marved (Vietnamese), SOM (Korean), FNS (Indian ethnicity)

EU - Carried by cracked CIS Players + National Diversity
Russian FPS gamers are just cracked + teams comprise of the best of players from different countries

APAC - Xenophobic mfers / Language Barrier / Land of the poor
T1, TS, ZETA, EDG and DRX rosters are made of players purely from their own country (possibly due to the language barrier), while GE and PRX are the only teams with imports / diversity.

PC gaming population is not huge in APAC as most countries are still developing and not all gamers can afford to own a PC over mobile.

China is pretty much closed off from the rest of the world and faces gaming crackdowns by their own government. Crossfire is still probably their main choice of all FPS games

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What about China?
edit: oop nvrmind

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didnt care + didnt ask

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Ain't reading allat 🗿

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yeah maybe some of them are ethnically not american/white, but that doesn't mean that they are fucking immigrants 💀

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Azure96

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Yes I was exaggerating a little there but being attractive to immigrants does land you a larger pool of talent in the long run

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hanafuuji

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NA is not better than let's say APAC because they have "larger talent pool". NA and APAC have similar ranked player base floating around 2 million players, it's because they have the infrastructure and better talents to choose from.

APAC is shit not because they're not "diverse" enough, it's just simply the lack of infrastructure and the lack of quality talent. 3/10 teams that are in the Pacific league right now are international teams (RRQ, GE, and PRX) and only PRX are the one who has a successful international roster, sure I agree I think more APAC teams going international is a good thing it'll create more opportunities to create a better team but teams aren't doing that because going international does not mean you're guaranteed to have a better team, team chemistry matters and speaking the same language obviously will create a better chemistry for your team. the reason PRX is the only successful international Pacific team is not because they're an international roster, it's because core of that team have been together for a long time back when they're still a CS:GO team, so chemistry is not an issue for them. and also it just so happens that they have cracked players like jinggg and f0rsaken. And don't forget about the fanbase too. it's good for orgs to make roster for a country so that the fanbase from that country feel represented and happy and thus create more clout and revenue for the org.

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Azure96

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I do agree that chemistry matters, but what we lack is having the best of both worlds like in successful EU and NA teams - Players with both cracked aim and game sense along with synergy playing as an international roster. Most APAC organisations don't have the privilege of this due to language barriers across international rosters, forcing them to stick to local talent as seen by the large percentage of single-flag teams.

When I spoke about diversity and "larger talent pools", I was referring to the privilege of EU and NA being able to source talents across borders without worrying about language barriers and synergy. Why do you think successful teams in the EU are not comprised of a single-flag roster? If Fnatic were to run a roster only limited to the best of UK players, would they be as strong as they were?

Put this into perspective - Single-flag Korean teams like T1 and DRX for instance can only source the best of players from their population of 50 million (assuming 0.5% plays valorant - 250k players). NA population - 370 million (1.85M val players), EMEA - 750 million (3.75M val players).

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Europe has a lot of immigrants too bro, Leo is Swedish nationality wise but looks like alfas brother lmfao

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Azure96

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That's why there is so much more diversity in EU and NA. I swear every country in Asia here is plaqued by xenophobia.

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bcs we're poor region -> cant afford good education -> cant speak english -> language barrier

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but why does apac (korea and china) dominate league

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Azure96

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I believe China has the biggest player base in league according to online stats. KR, EU and NA is pretty balanced in player count imo

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Faker

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china is population size
korea is history and culture, they have been into esports for longer then any other country so they have the best infrastructure and highest % of youth playing

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rosso4000

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TS def not barrier language bound. remember they lenne there, and he has played, though they probs prefer tagalog over english

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Azure96

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Yeah most Filipinos speak a blend of Tagalog and English. They failed miserably with Lenne tho lmao

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rosso4000

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they kinda was trolling or idk with the comp

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Warlordwibz

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NA: s0m background ethnicity is korean + Zekken (Philippines)

APAC:

TLN + GenG (for language roster nationality)
Typical Strict Asian parents negative view on gaming (Lawyer/Doctor or failure) + Uni education etc

China: They got introduced late, so only select few have access to the game (I'm sure a random talented individual would enter the pro scene when have access to the game one day)

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Azure96

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I totally agree with Asian culture being part of the underdeveloped esports scene in Asia as well. It's more acceptable to be a pro gamer in the west than in Asia with the stereotypes in place.

Would love to see China make it big but things aren't looking good considering their government's stance on gaming.

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JiangLi

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Agree on the xenophobia part, but aside frm that how does it make APAC worst?
having teams from one country makes it more interesting for me to watch

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DrudaL

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For regional matches I think its fun to watch, but for international event?

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JiangLi

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It'll still be better if theres 2-3 players from a specific sub region. Its not fun for me to watch teams like GE in international.

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Azure96

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Probably because the cultural distance is too huge, and if their best players are not from their country of origin.

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Derpp

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blud s0m and c0m are both korean

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Azure96

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Ahhh my bad