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why is na so bad at esports

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#1
presterdo2

as someone from usa, they just dont seem on par with other regions like pacific or emea in nearly all esports like cs, league and even valo. in cs they won like what one major vs emeas 15 (or something). then in league the entire scene is dead and im pretty sure they havent won a finals yet. then now in valorant, we couldnt win a map to fnatic, and if im being fr, being a 1 team region is better than not winning any events. i would rather be 1st than 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th.

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Lazy region, asia and emea keeps trying to get better and better while na is happy stealing paychecks and getting clout

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asd7
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thanks for generalizing two continents literally wtf

#11
yawnster
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Yeah im sure there's another region why NA is dogshit at Lol, CS, R6, dota and other minor esports

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pugz
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Europe has billion players
NA not

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justron40
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source: trust me bro

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NA_BEST_COUNTRY
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Billion players yet only 5 good ones, on one team kkkk

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Chikenwarrior23
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I also think north america is the best country

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yawnster
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Not this retarded cope again, NA has more money and better infrastructure for players to thrive and grow but they too busy stealing checks and streaming.

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Master_oGgway
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Along with that, people don't support it much as well. You gonna do some degenerate things to get really popular. NA has money but not the talent and mindset.

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SatanLovesYou
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Haha no. If you are talking about the esport teams that want to farm young people for influence online that they can make corporate brand deals by pitching the online impressions they're getting than sure.

But on the federal and local level? Hell nah bro. I remember NIP, Fnatic, Astralis, and Navi players being treated like fucking gods when they won majors. Those players own businesses in their countries now bahaha, they got to see prime ministers and kings. If an american wins something you aren't going to be receiving a congratulations card from your local governor let alone see the president bahaha come on now. Besides the most you are getting for 500,000 here is a pretty decent normal suburban home not a chain of restaurants or some shit looool. Y'all don't even know what it's truly like over here, Shit is not a good place to try to play video games seriously in.

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Subreezy
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least obvious fake flagger i've seen in a while

Registered: June 25, 2023
Last post: June 25, 2023 at 4:27 AM
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wisawis
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in NA streaming gets u more money than competing so ye

#6
FrenchToast
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“as someone from usa”

okay fake flagger/ baiter that just made an account minutes ago

#12
CowboySG2
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NA isn't a region

#13
alara_acendfan
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they are good at crying tho, every single time i swear they come up with excuses i can not think of

#14
goofy_teddy
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streamers region

#16
AllMight
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Its their history. EMEA has been winning all of the major tournaments in csgo . Same shit here as well

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pullupthen
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why is no one talking about SEA tho? where are they in the esports scene?

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solsolid
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the talent pool are too spread out i guess? there's no superteam like fnatic on na

#19
SatanLovesYou
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Uh, do you want a real answer?

A lot of people saying streaming is kind of correct, but this was talked about in the early days of CSGO.

  1. NA is huge, and it costs more money, time, and availability to get to LAN tournaments here. It's been a problem for a long time. In the early days before esports was kicking off I used to play shitty f2p fps games with skadoodle from csgo. The reason why people would play those games was because they had online regional qualifiers and companies like Ijji or Nexon would pay for you to go to korea for worlds. 1.6 and Source professional was for like, the better off young people with supportive family. So NA lost a lot of talent in those days due to people growing up and needing to work early on in life because more people here are poor than let's say Denmark, France, or Sweden. If you want proof of income inequality impacting esports, look at CoD. Look at nadeshot, he got his chance playing pro while working at fucking mcdonalds, but it was on a console. Most families couldn't afford actual gaming pcs. I remember playing css at 30ish fps on dial up and feeling frustrated going against well equipped and well off rich kids on CAL and CPL. Shit sucks.... Anyways EU doesn't and hasn't competed in really any console esports, there just isn't a gap to exploit and I feel EU as a whole is more into pc culture.

  2. Social programs and education systems. There are a lot of basic income welfare type programs for financial assistance, housing, and medical emergencies. Plus you don't need to pay for your higher education, and while you're growing up you are learning more efficiently, less amlunt of days and hours at school, and no "homework". Now this varies by country but as a whole EU does this a lot better than any single state in the US.

  3. So we covered how you have more time, less cost, and more assistance to live your dream or give you at least the chance of it if you are driven enough. But the 3rd thing is culture and opportunity. EU as a whole looks at their citizens as an investment and responsibility, even if they can't give back to society, it is societies responsibility to make sure that even the weakest and worst off among them is taken care of. In the US we care only for the profitability and hold no responsibility for taking care of our own other than a patriotic and cult like belief that any outside threat or attack against an american is one against the collective itself. In simple terms, children are grown here to be profitable and if you are not than you are to be discarded. We do this with children, adults, elderly, vets, the disabled... As bad as it sounds and as morally... Detestable as it is. It's kind of the genius of the US and simply how we play and win the game at the highest levels. It doesn't do well with pipe dreams and competitive entertainment industries. Like if we wanted to, we would create esport faculties with top of the line technology and health scientists finding the perfect freak fps players and training regimes to get all the olympic golds...like we do for other sports lol.

So to sum it up, americans work more, longer, and on average have rougher lives than a good amount of europe. In EU support is given, so talent and drive determine the best of the best. In the US opportunity is more important because you can be super talented and driven but unless you have the perfect environment to nurture those things, you'll be ground up in the system of what you need to do to be a "good" american, not what you want to do to be happy or successful. And esports like most of our entertainment sector, is to be taxed and ignored, while occasionally being a gateway for militaey recruitment or brand indoctrination.

The US will never care and support esports the same way European countries will. Just how the cookie crumbles guys, this society has bigger games to win and loose at, and it's for all the stakes in the world.

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