why can’t duelists play raze?

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sj67atg6

looking at nrg it’s clear that ardiis just can’t flex man. his best agent is jett rn and victor is a lot better on the agents he’s being put on. so why can’t he just play raze man? i don’t get why so many jett players can’t play raze too.

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Stratum7

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qw1 goat on both

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J0zza

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Derke? Aspas?

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Art1st

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raze is just a different agent lol, a lot of the times they just don’t have the correct util on it.

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cholikarr

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raze requires more mechs
And most players who play jett take her for op

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FrenchToast

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g2 lft oxy just built different i guess

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acels

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most duelists in top 8 can play raze (buzz, sayf,zmjjkk,derke,aspas)

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chick

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Sneaked 1 player in there

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crashhacker1

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aspas literally got his team eliminated because he cant play anything more than jett.

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chloeburbank

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ardiis cant flex? he carried FPX on kayo

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Shuaaa

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Duelist for making space = raze, duelist for taking early fights = jett. Jett has basically been gutted relative to how she used to be with 3 smokes and a better ult, while raze can usually have a lot more impact without necessarily needing some nutty aimer to play her. Watching KK play raze against liquid on split though, you can use her for OPing and stuff like that too, but its def not as meta as jett.

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hell_on_earth

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jett is for making space aswell on haven or ascent youre not getting out of chokes without jett dash

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canyon

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im one of the top duelists and I can confirm I can play all duelist agents as skillfully as I play Jett.

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hell_on_earth

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cuz jett and raze require two different skillsets, satchel movement and jett movement very different. ardiis could become a raze player if he put the hours in as could anyone its just the matter of practicing the agent

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trembolonaRage

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Thats what Sligy from TL said 2 years ago
"If RIOT by any means decides to nerf jett and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like cned and tenz again"

Thoughts? I think he was a bit harshy about it but in the end he was right...

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Dolphin

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LMAO

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NG1nS

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this ia a lie btw

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Ailed

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Why sligy so harshy 😞

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Cat4clysma

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someone please paste trembo copypasta about good players with raze and mwzera

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babysasuke

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STATS

TWITCH FOLLOWERS
aspas - https://www.twitch.tv/aspaszin (276k followers)
Derke - https://www.twitch.tv/derke (51k followers)
TenZ - https://www.twitch.tv/tenz (2.8 MILLION followers)

TWITTER FOLLOWERS
aspas - https://twitter.com/loud_aspas (136.7k followers)
Derke - https://twitter.com/derkeps (78k followers)
TenZ - https://twitter.com/TenZOfficial (1M followers)

can you take a moment to appreciate how clouted TenZ is? he has so many damn fans because he's just SOOOOO good at the game!

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good duelist is if they're the best on ONE main agent! This will prove that TenZ plays jett since he's simply the best jett in the world!

heat? nt (not tenz)
aspas? nt (not tenz)
xand? nt (not tenz)
yay? nt (not tenz)
cned? nt (not tenz)
scream? nt (not tenz)
d3ffo? nt (not tenz)
derke? nt (not tenz)

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf jett and shift the meta, TenZ will unleash his chamber on the rest of the world.
He is not killing 40+ per map because Ratzam tells TenZ that he can't change his mouse or sens during the game which really messes up flow... and lets be honest, every single duelist nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you, but SEN all try to make individual plays which prevents TenZ from DOMINATING.

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Cat4clysma

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i do prefer mw's, but will do
thanks babesasuke

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nutab1e

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L shittyindian copypasta

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babysasuke

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exposed

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DetonationFocusMeiy

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And jinggg cannot play jett, so?

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Call_me_Papa

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actually he can... when he was recruited he used to play jett.
but he's not that good though

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Yistyy

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Victor's raze is really good, so that's not exactly the main issue

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moonlitfarewell

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Raze is just a burst entry so you see less KD fragging but more/equal ADPR through her ultility, typically they explode deep into site(ha) and fast enough that team mates cannot immediately assist in their kills but it makes an amazing distraction/site take. Think of Bind, a double blastpack out of Hookah or from Cubby box usually ends with the raze being in the back of either site. While their team clears oct, below window, elbow, tunnel or lamps, site/showers etc.

Also factor in that Jett can be played aggressively as entry or even 3rd rifle/awp etc and you'll see why it seems like "no one can play it". It's just more difficult to see their impact through numbers.

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michaelisupset

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zekken built diff

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Pengu12

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Champs MVP

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crashhacker1

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bad duelists*