TOP 10 Americas teams - tier 2 included

Post your top 10 americas teams (challengers included) so far based on performance. I dont follow BR Tier 2 scene but would love to see how u guys think the Union and others rank
mine :

1. LOUD
2. Cloud 9
3. M80
4. NRG
5. Leviathan
6. Guard
7. EG
8. 100t
9. FURIA
10. OXG Esports

Where g2

EG is better than LEV, MXM is better than current OXG, M80 is not better than NRG. This is just lazy.

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delusional post, m80 isnt even top 5. they are playing dogshit teams constantly of course they will look good

m80 isn't even the most consistent looking team in challengers right now, so not sure how they'd possibly be better than every franchised NA team besides C9... NRG, EG, and even 100T both look way better against way tougher opponents. Same goes with the guard being 6th, i mean they've lost to mxm and G2 (which, no hate to mxm because they look like a great team,) but you can't exactly say that makes them better than EG, 100T, or FURIA, teams which have looked pretty good in a tier 1 event

i think the thing to remember with challengers is that its impossible to directly compare those teams to franchised ones. The environment is super different (one is on lan, one isn't, and one is against the absolute top competition while challengers has a bit of a drop off in quality besides the top few teams). We'll have to see how the ascension winner does in tier 1 next year before we can honestly have a good idea of where a challenger team would land

Where's DSG?

Brother get real

Because losing 2-0 to SR means you are 3rd best Americas

m80 over nrg is crazy

this is a completely delulu take. almost 95% of challengers teams are very far in skill difference when compared to the franchised teams, whether you like to hear it or not. the few NA teams that may be able to “compete” are M80 and TGRD, yet even they are shaky performing in VCL, with M80 loosing to SR and TGRD barely winning against mid lions.

i don’t see how a team with the core of ghost gaming is better than the core of NRG, recognizing that NRG have 4 international title holders and s0m, arguably a top 2 controller in the AMERICAS league atm. even more, leviatan have literally PROVED themselves multiple times already and they are still somehow worse than m80? clueless ranking list. if m80 was truly better than the teams you listed, they wouldn’t have lost to shopify rebellion 0-2.

additional scrimbux emphasizing my point. although scrims do not mean a lot, they give a general idea as to how teams are performing.

SEN 17-6 MxM
SEN 11-7 SR
SEN 14-9 FaZe
NRG 14-6 G2
100T 8-5 TTR
EG 14-6 DSG
SEN 13-8 MxM
C9 14-7 TGRD
100T 14-5 SR
SEN 11-3 M80

M80 over NRG is some insane glazing