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Pengu12

Cause I think a lot of teams are in position to get atleast 5 wins

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4-5 depending of the wins next week we will know almost 100% who will pass

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read the children of this post

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Alright I did the math so apparently for you to guarantee playoffs you need to have at least 7 wins, because even with 6 wins you can still get knocked out of the playoffs with a bracket like this (keep in mind that this is very unlikely obviously and it's not possible anymore for all of the current 3 international leagues):

6-3
6-3
6-3
6-3
6-3
6-3
--- PLAYOFFS ---
6-3 <--- (not qualifying even with the 6-3 record)
2-7
1-8
0-9

the formula was if your number of wins when get multiplied by 7 has the total of less than 45 then that number is possible to be outside of playoffs, so yeah as far as I'm aware 7 wins is the minimum amount of wins for you to GUARANTEE a playoff spot. CMIIW

And for you to BE in the playoffs you TECHNICALLY can be there with only 2 wins, with the hypothetical bracket looking like this (again this is hypothethical, obviously this is very unlikely and also not possible anymore with all of the 3 current international leagues):

7-2
7-2
7-2
7-2
7-2
2-7 <--- (qualifying even with only 2 wins)
--- PLAYOFFS ---
2-7
2-7
2-7
2-7

also CMIIW

TL;DR: You need to have 7 wins to guarantee a spot in the playoffs and 2 wins for it to be possible for you to qualify for playoffs

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I don't think your first scenario is possible since more than 1 team can't go 0-9

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hanafuuji

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changed it, I forgot about that lmao I just based it off of the total wins or losses needs to be 45 for the hypothetical bracket to be possible

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Kc, th and bbl won xd

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This second scenario isn't possible. Just logically think about it for two seconds. How are five teams going 1-8? How are five going 8-1? This can't happen if it's a round robin.

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wait really? let's divide the 2nd scenario into 2 groups the 8-1 one and the 1-8 one, can't like team 1 just lose against team 2 and team 2 lose against team 3 and so on until team 5 and they would lose against team 1, and for the 1-8 group same thing but with wins instead of losses

idk maybe my brain are too fried rn I didn't really think this through

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Lets go with the 5 team group at 1-8. For each of them to go 1-8, that means they've beaten a single team and lost to every other team in the league. 5 teams are A, B, C, D, E

If the one win for each of the teams goes like:
A>B
B>C
C>D
D>E
E>A

That must mean each of these teams have lost to every other team they've played. So what about B vs D? D has already beaten E and B has already beaten C, but both teams still have to lose for this to make sense. So it's not possible.

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hanafuuji

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oh shoot thanks, this is more complicated than I thought, what do you think is the solution? is it possible if it's like multiple 2-7s instead of 1-8s?

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Yea, I think five teams going 2-7 is possible.
edit: spelling

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forgot this cause apparently it's wrong :|

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you need 7/9 to GUARANTEE playoffs, but 6 is pretty much always enough except in the extreme case where the top seven teams get 6 wins each and the last three teams get 2/1/0 wins respectively

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hanafuuji

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no, 5 wins is enough for you to guarantee you playoffs lol

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it just isn’t though. for example, you could have

6-3, 5-4, 5-4, 5-4, 5-4, 5-4, 5-4, 4-5, 3-6, 2-7

and one team with 5 wins would be eliminated

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hanafuuji

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oh shit, I stand corrected. I guess chatgpt just lied to me wtf

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BayArea

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I guess chatgpt just lied to me wtf

please tell me this is a joke and you didn't actually need to consult an AI instead of thinking for yourself

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hanafuuji

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why tf would I spend my time thinking about that lmao

edit: aite bet I calculate it myself https://www.vlr.gg/203675/does-5-wins-equal-guaranteed-playoffs/#11

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sorry bro

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fuck chatgpt, I guess AI won't replace human anytime soon

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I can't see Loud or FNATIC finishing 9-0, but DRX has already faced pretty much every good team in the pacific, what's left is rest, so DRX 9-0

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But who tf is supposed to beat loud now? Nrg???

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100t crowd buff 8)

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Plot twist: Loud loses to KRU and ends 9-1 and this is the only win for KRU ending 1-9.

Does 5 wins equal guaranteed playoffs?

TL;DR: You need to have 7 wins to guarantee a spot in the playoffs and 2 wins for it to be possible for you to qualify for playoffs