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Where did it go wrong?

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#1
Nachtel

When the off-season came around it looked like every team in North America was a contender for the best in the world.

100T, which had managed to beat Fnatic had signed the hottest young star of last year in Cryo

Sentinels signed the 4 S-tier players, two of which were the best in the world, and dephh
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NRG had found a flexible replacement for Yay in this new meta, ad s0m stepped in to fill marved's shoes.

Cloud9 managed to put together 4 aim gods and a proven igl.

EG was doing something idk

It's all come crumbling down.

#2
Valgod
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NA IS IN SHAMBLES YOU LOVE TO SEE IT

#3
Shawn23
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Well it was a complety meta shift, a player overnight can go from good as fuck to mid with one meta change ( CRYO ) so playstyles are different and everyone has to get adjusted to a new style and new roles and some teams just do it faster then others

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sheahhhh
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sykko brought too many new players in, could've kept shahz and dapr as 6th
NRG replaced a chamber crutch with another chamber crutch who is worse than the first and are now having role issues
c9 explained itself but they rebounded not too badly
EG is nepotism and just trashy management picking up mid talent
100t is a mystery to me, seems like sean was carrying their strat book hard and cryo is a fraud too

mostly role issues though, just let these chamber crutches play jett cause that's all they can play at this point

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RockawayKidz
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actually true for once

#5
hanafuuji
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and dephh LMAOOO

#6
asd7
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No one expected chamber to fall off ig💀💀

#7
ZhangWei
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It started with the chamber nerfs so many good Jett players ruined by chamber. It's like they forgot how to play Jett or something

#8
hungeryman
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The problem is people expect miracles in the first season itself. Every team got shuffled and every player had to come out of their comfort zone to switch roles. Everyone wants quick results but building a good team chemistry takes time.

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zidmz
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100t:
Cryo was yet another pro turned fraud by chamber nerf
Asuna fell off the hugest cliff, same with t0nz
Derrek onliner
Stellar still good
Bang has huge future

SEN:
t0nz fell off the hugest cliff, same with Asuna
Sacy still ok (?)
pANcada still good
dephh worst igl in americas
zekken has huge future

NRG:
fartpiss another pro turned fraud by chamber nerf
s0m, despite surpassing expectations, still just ok
fenis all brain no aim
victor mid aim no brain
crashies one of the best initiators itw

C9:
dropped y0y
vanity threw while he was there
1leaf goat
xeppaa mid
zellsis ranked troll
runi and jakee to soon to tell, but good futures ahead

EG:
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btw im making this its own thread

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Nachtel
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bro xeppaa is NOT mid. he aces thrice per match, whether the team is winning or losing.

#17
zidmz
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skye (5) 50% 100 0.98 191.4 0.92 122.0 70% 0.67 0.38 0.05 0.08 67 73 38 5 8
raze (2) 20% 42 0.95 228.0 1.06 148.4 67% 0.79 0.14 0.24 0.10 33 31 6 10 4
kayo (2) 20% 47 1.08 227.5 0.95 153.7 74% 0.79 0.55 0.02 0.04 37 39 26 1 2
sova (1) 10% 15 0.76 166.0 0.75 100.3 67% 0.60 0.13 0.07 0.00 9 12 2 1 0

from: https://www.vlr.gg/player/7871/xeppaa agents

#11
OkOkay
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NO YAY, NO NA

it even rhymes

#12
AntiWest
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it all starts from the Chamber nerf.

#13
BrotherMan
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Ardiis hasn't even filled yay's shoes in the slightest (chamber nerf huge factor).... NRG would be S tier with FNC LOUD etc but they miss firepower

#14
thiagomds
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NA orgs invest in short term period. Look at Furia. They Kept 4 players+ coach even when they didn't have expressive results internationally.MIBR bring VK core and kept their 2 best players, they lost lock in to Talon and didn't care, they keep putting effort and practicing. You will spend TIME to get better.

#15
Nachtel
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sometimes you have to go for new names though, I mean just look at EG. Keeping their core did NOT do them any favors

#18
thiagomds
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I agreed about EG, they can't do much with that roster but I think sometimes the other NA teams want to invent the wheel everytime. Just put the players in their comfort zone and improve the fundamentals. If they start doing this in couple months they will have the map pool they need.Loud for example discovered that skye harbor viper comp and play in 5 maps the same shit cuz they had the bascics(and it worked).

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