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Do you think Harbor - Gekko is really good..
or its bullshit trash gimmicky.. since its lan and everyone just buy phantom to spray at random shit..

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I'm leaning towards trash gimmicky... the fact the harbor wall slows down the team makes it hard to do things on T side, combined with the fact that gekko has to pick up his orbs after flashing. It makes site hits sluggish, allowing for the enemy team to rotate quickly and/or spam you all to death as you set up the next layer of the take.

-EG fan

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Absolutely not reading even one sentence of this waffling

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double smoke is the meta

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don't about good or bad but both are based harbor can wet u and gekko throw stuff at ur head

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gekko good solo ini, good pick for all consistently fragging ini players, but teamplay hasn't evolved to maximise his value yet. harbor probably one of the best controller agents, expect him to be more meta as time passes

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He is only good if the team is running heavily on Util, as he has nothing on his own except smokes and a janky orb. So not really viable in unrated or even ranked

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gimmicky obv

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Gekko is good but Harbor is not that great he needs some buff especially in rank play he is pretty bad in rank he is like alr not too good not too bad i shall say he is not like Viper tho must pick Viper is still far better than Harbor he needs buffs maybe increases slow durations and Cove needs to be buffed

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How are you saying Harbor is worse than Gekko? Harbor has maps he is proven to work on like Pearl and Icebox while Gekko looks pretty underwhelming on every map imo, maybe except Lotus

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Dude he is not good in rank i said... And i never said he is worse than Gekko like read the message carefully And i said Viper is better than Harbor and even pro pick rates tell that pls read message carefully before waffling.....

He is bad in rank and needs buff his winrate in rank is the worst

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"Gekko is good but Harbor is not that great" To me, that indicates that you think Gekko is in a better place than Harbor. Also, agent buffs/nerfs should not be based on ranked performance it should be based on competitive play. Harbor is especially bad in ranked because a lot of people don't play Harbor well, not because he is a bad agent.

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Agents are buffed seeing both ranked and competitive play jerk if one agent is struggling in ran that mean for the common player base it's not that gr8 but great at high level he will be buffed for sure he is not a bad agent he is underated and underpowered.....needs buff so he can compete against viper and be a little more stronger cuz his slow is weak af and same goes for his cove...

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Harbor viper is meta imo, but I don't think gecko is fantastic in the current meta.

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Decent off-meta pick on post plant heavy maps like Icebox but on maps that are less post plant focused like Ascent its not really viable

overall im leaning a bit more towards gimmicky but I hope that coaches can actually develop this agent combo into a viable strat just for some more comp variety