The end to the gender debate

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ash_knuckles

This debate comes up way too often, and i've sort of reached a conclusion ( i think)

is the path to the top for women constrained by some mix of biological factors? Kinda, maybe, but not really.
Will there ever be a semi- equal distribution (55/45,60/40) of male and female competitors at the top? No. However,
Will we ever see women in the top .01% of valorant/any competitive video games? idk. If the top reps keep improving as they are, then yes. If not, then no. the major point is that IT IS DOABLE.

MAJOR REFERENCE : read my conversation with Olofboost in this thread https://www.vlr.gg/post/1762940/game-changers-teams. It addresses the crux of the matter/most key issues i think

I also want all your takes on the issue concisely written in this thread if possible, so it can be used as a future reference, as this debate is far too long to constantly rehave anytime female players are brought up.

NOTE: Keep your sentiments away from this thread pls, this thread is simply focusing on the difference between male and female players, nothing more.
READ THE REFERENCE PLS

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sazanka

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Just let them play games man

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ash_knuckles

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tbh i kinda just want a ref to link anytime someone brings shit up

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Valgod

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Are they not playing

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Mathewjacob

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BRO DON'T BRING THESE CANCERS HERE

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yaiima0

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both genders smelly. teehee

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ash_knuckles

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only valid take

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Psion

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can you please word the title better than "the gender debate" lmaoooo.

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ash_knuckles

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LMFAO MY BAD

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vnvodich

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"The solution to the gender question" maybe more suitable )))

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Psion

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no, it needs to contain gaming or esports in the title

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team_liquid_fan_v2

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women are born with XX chromosemes

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team_liquid_fan_v2

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and men are born with XY chromosomes, thats the difference

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ash_knuckles

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that's crazy

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team_liquid_fan_v2

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jokes aside, i think we can see women at the top if more and more women play the game, at the moment men are still the overwhelming majority of players

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laurus

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It doesn't work like that

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ash_knuckles

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i would love to hear a concise take that summarises all your points mr laurus(getting tired of reading your disjointed ones). also read reference material, agree or disagree.

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laurus

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Agree

I'm lazy to summarize everything, but people who say genetics don't matter are so wrong

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ash_knuckles

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genetics do matter, but in the end are just as arbitrary as any other factor. Bypassing the problems genetics pose is pretty easy. People who claim they don't matter at all are kinda incorrect.

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eggsalt

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We don't need more threads made by men discussing what is or what isn't best for female communities.

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ash_knuckles

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The entire reason this community exists,and the entire point of all threads is speculation, and saying we can't speculate/theorize about female teams is kinda dumb. No one's laying down rules or giving instructions. It's simply speculation, as we do to any other team, and any other player.

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I think there's one game where a woman was world champion, starcraft 2, buts it's an individual game, I don't think we will ever gonna see a roster of 5 women be world champions in any 5v5 game. The main problem imo is dedication and it makes sense because:

Women are in general less interested in video games, especially shooters.
Out of the minority that likes games, most will realize that there's not much attention to the female scene both viewership and money.
(this is prob a biological thing) Men are more reckless about their passion, (some)men will risk their whole lives for success, and that's why men are both at the top(most successful) and bottom(least successful) of society, women are more responsible.
Adding all together, the few women that decided to go pro, only a handful of them will grind like crazy, like 8+ hrs a day, that's not even considering if they are talented. Now to make a roster there are also language, geographical, and personality problems too. Making it almost impossible, for an all-female team, be competing at the highest level, in the present day. Best solution is to make a mixed roster, I really cant understand why those don't exist yet. Like some girls playing in tier 3 teams or summ