Why NA so bad?

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AekaMino

not even one qualified team KEKW

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sheahhhh

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mo money, mo problems

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hekzy

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Is this the new cope? "They get paid more"? If anything that's depressing, imagine getting paid so much to bomb out in groups.

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sheahhhh

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marved gets paid so much, he doesnt even have to play
trent was obviously compensated by Guard so he doesn't have to leave
examples like that, there's no usual ladder climbing mentality cause many can stream or even stay in t2 and be fine

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NG1nS

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at some point you have to face reality sheaah 😂😂
jk jk

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sheahhhh

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borderline wishing marved financial insecurity 😂

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NG1nS

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fr 💀

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NuclearNick

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Says the guy with the team that has choked more than any other val team

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hekzy

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my man, you shouldn't be talking with that flair, you should be hiding in a bunker the way fnatic fucking pummeled 100T.

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rosso4000

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bring on the problems
bring on the problems
bring on the mofuckin problems
they say mo money more probluhms
bring on the problems
bring on the problems
bring on the mofuckin-

only signing the gang
we the new lucian grainge
bring on the range
her mj thang
im talking a braidy thing
im off of the juice
never can cycle the mix

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ExCPt

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team liquid flair KEKW

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flames-leleo

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I don't think NA is bad, I think some players are overpaid which makes some (not all) put less effort

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🫵🤡

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Wannabe

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Even nrg adapted, Loud is lucky because of ardiss if it was yay or cryocells with op then it was nrg win and so there won't be any SA team

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ReBarboZa

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lmao Loud is stealing the luck of all the teams, since they have been lucky for 5 months straight huh?
Loud won because they were better, not because NRG underperformed. NRG actually is the best looking team from NA.
Also Ardiss is way better than yay after chamber nerfs. Cope harder.

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Cryo is an overrated chamber merchant

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BoF7ooM

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cryocells and yay: without my chamber I cant.
Ardiis owns both of these frauds after chamber nerf.

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Ghost22

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All talk, no action.
NA KEKW

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nutab1e

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waiting for shahzam to win ascension

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babysasuke

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bro before he's done waiting for this: 💀

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nutab1e

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bro when I find him IRL: 💀

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Subreezy

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how many threads a day is this gonna come up LMAO

the only NA team expected to make top 4 was nrg, and they were 1 round away in a very close quad OT match.
the two EMEA teams expected to make it far were Navi and Fnatic, Navi was lucky enough to keep 4 from their core together from FPX (LAN winners) and Fnatic has literally the strongest team on paper. It would've been sad if they didn't make top 4.

but, I just don't think a region's strength is based off of its top teams. EMEA has 2 amazing teams but so does Americas. What does matter imo is that Americas #3-8 (100T, LEV, SEN, Furia, EG, C9) are the favorites to win over EMEA #3-8 any day and I'd rather have it that way than require 2 teams to carry the whole region.

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babysasuke

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you'll get downvoted for being right I'm sure.

"Amazing" is a little much for Fnatic but it can slide.

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Subreezy

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damn you were right, classic EMEA frogs downvoting common sense

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yungbasel

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Cope my son, cope

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alexxx

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unfortunately KOI and giants own americas 3-8

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Imwrong

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you prefer being mid than being good. NA is done

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mrGoudas

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You're right, americas as a whole seems stronger rn but this post was made about na so

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BoF7ooM

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buddy thinks MIBR, KRU, EG, 100T can win against VIT, KOI, GIANTS, BBL or even KC because NRG and LOUD were able to beat them, so braindead 😂😂 100T> C9 and look at how they performed against FUT and FNC lmao. They didnt look "lost" or were having bad days, it was literally how they played all the time, just exposed hard this time. How does a 7 month old team not improve a single bit and get dogged on by someone named MrFallin 😹

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Subreezy

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classic emea fan can't read my words and see i never once mentioned mibr and kru because they're #9 and 10

any Americas and EMEA matchups (that didn't involve NRG, LOUD, Navi, and Fnatic):
EG 2-0 Heretics
100T 2-1 FUT
Leviatan 2-0 Vitality

what EMEA team besides Navi and Fnatic beat an Americas team?
Thus my point stands, #3-8 Americas CLEARS #3-8 EMEA

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swayway

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NA literally beat the bottom 2 EMEA teams LMAO

Everyone else owns 1T and EG

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ice3

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NA isnt bad, NRG looks very good(as expected when they have the Optic core + ardiis), EG look very drilled on some maps, their potential is really high, 100T looked a bit shaky, but nothing that cant be fixed and Sentinels has high potential aswell. Im only worried about C9, it seems like they had some trouble behind the scenes(thats why yay´s gone). Well see in Tokyo how the regions compare. Thats the true test, Lockin is important, but Masters is even more.

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BoF7ooM

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100T didnt look shaky, that's how they play, already reached their cieling (10th team EMEA level). You expect derrek to clutch against Franchised top players like its NA LCQ (lowest tier of competition). Cryocells chamber merchant, bang cant reach marved's level.

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brobeans

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We only care about majors

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Okoretro

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NA 0 majors (champions)

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brobeans

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pls google what a major is

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nutab1e

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pls google what a gecko is xd

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brobeans

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fr. people are idiots

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nutab1e

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? you're the idiot here

bro mixed it up with a chameleon

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brobeans

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I did not. Bad bait

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nutab1e

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nt look up gecko

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Okoretro

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Masters are not Majors (by the csgo definition)

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babysasuke

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Good thing we're not on HLTV!

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Okoretro

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Good thing there’s nothing called major in valorant!

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babysasuke

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EMEA 0 majors kkkkkkkkkkk

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Okoretro

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Exactly

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brobeans

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considering everyone in val has been calling the big 3 LANs "majors" since val started, i dont think we care what one crazy vlr user thinks

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Shownu

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Coping hard trying to call Master's Iceland a Major. We get exclusive Champions skins for Champions not Masters.

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Okoretro

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still doesnt change the fact that they're not majors

cope and seethe

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nutab1e

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everyone in val has been calling the big 3 LANs "majors" since val started

no they haven't, average gecko chameleon mixup

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swayway

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NA majors = 1 EU majors = 15

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Jeffo

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NRG looks like the only good team in NA tbh, with Loud and Leviatan this might be the 3 teams to go to Masters Tokyo.

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Kapitol

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Why are we comparing 10 EMEA teams to NA who has 5. Just compare to Americas Region, EMEA still has the most representation still, but the comparison doesn't make sense to just NA.

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hekzy

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Wanna compare just Giants, koi, vitality, fnc and Navi to the 5 NA teams?

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mrGoudas

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The classic "you have more teams" cope, just compare eu top 5 to na top5 easy way to see how far ahead emea is

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Danny

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Currently EMEA is ahead with FNC and Navi both being top tier teams. NRG is competitive with them but that is it

The second tier of NA franchising however is leaps and bounds above the rest of EMEA. 100T and C9 both clear Vitality, koi, and Giants.

EG and Sen are question marks but still above the bottom 5 EMEA franchised rosters

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eg is better than c9

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Braindead take.

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eszett

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flair check

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Danny

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C9 beat PRX, EG lost to Talon

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eszett

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PRX lmfao the most overrated team of the world

Talon is way better than PRX

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Mitolai

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yes

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Dolphin

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G2 will fix that when the ascend

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yaiima0

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I think this lock in tournament hopefully shows them what they need to improve on. A lot of high potential teams here.

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As a region NA is easily the best as a collective, but of it's teams NA just doesn't have a top 5 team globally. Navi, DRX and Loud are all better than the best NA team in NRG. But EG is easily the best of the worst teams of each region.

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NA so bad Yay left and is going to EU

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Khuletz

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OG/NRG will always look like a W machine. even with some roster changes, I can still 90% trust them to get a dub against any team.